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For some reason I found this agonizing... penalty pass situation

#1 User is offline   tysen2k 

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Posted 2004-May-24, 11:49

Against opponents who know what they're doing:
Scoring: IMP


LHO PART RHO YOU
1 1 Pass Pass
Dbl Pass Pass ?
A bit of blatant self-pimping - I've got a new poker book that's getting good reviews.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 12:01

Hi all,
It depends. Sometimes I watch as dummy, but sometimes I go get something to drink.

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Posted 2004-May-24, 12:10

What is this?
A question? A comment?
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Posted 2004-May-24, 12:10

Pass. What else can you do? Both sides not vul. If your partner can only win three tricks in his suit, they may have a slam, if he can win four, it is not so bad, surely they have game. If he can only win two tricks, what did he overcall on? This is imps after all.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 13:04

Pass, if p wanted me to bid, he should redouble imo... Works like a charme B)
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Posted 2004-May-24, 13:13

Pass, I have extras for my first pass B)

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Posted 2004-May-24, 14:20

I'm with DJNeill, and I opt for a trip to the bar.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 14:23

This was the full hand:

Scoring: IMP


I chose to pass. Down 4 for -800.
At the other table, South faced the same situation and chose to make an SOS redouble. After North bids 2, E-W decided not to go for the penalty and ended up in 3N making 5.
Afterwards I was wondering if maybe Redouble is best. I know that spades are splitting 5-1 or 6-0 with the spades behind my partner. He might not make many tricks at all. Even though rdbl bumps it up to the 2-level, I see 2 added bonuses:
  • trumps might not split as badly
  • opps might overbid us (like at the other table)
I'm still not sure what the best action is in general, but I was curious what the concensus here was.
A bit of blatant self-pimping - I've got a new poker book that's getting good reviews.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 15:04

2X

1. A
2. A
3. ruff
4. K
5. ruff
6. A
7. ruff
8. ruff
9. ruff with jack
10 Ace

NS take three tricks, down five. 100, 300, 500, 800, 1100, 1400. Have a talk with your partners about not being cruel to their 2 contract, as you missed out on a yummy 600 point swinging 20 imps (win 12 instead of lose 8).

About 1X. Winning only 3 tricks is pretty nice defense. I would think, looking at the hands, you might manage 4 as defending 1 looks harder than defending 2.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 15:18

p didnt double ..any action (like XX) likely only lead to 2S X :))
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Posted 2004-May-24, 15:37

I wouldnt bid 2 now :D
What can you do, just pass and hope for the best, i wouldnt feel bad about the contract, you have 7 spades, and only playing at the 1 level.
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Posted 2004-May-24, 15:38

I would consider redoubling on a 1444 or heart/club two-suiter with singleton spade, but even then I might pass (because chances are pard will have 6 spades).

With a 2344 and opponents having bid diamonds, the only escape is into 2, but that works only if pard has 4 of them. A rather long shot... Stick to 1 doubled - the attempt to improve the contract rates to make things worse. Note that if pard had 5 clubs or 5 hearts, he would have rescued himself.
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