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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2004-May-21, 01:21

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Bidding:
W 2♦ alert weak
N pass
E 2♠ alert suit5+

What should south bid?

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Posted 2004-May-21, 02:00

Hi,
After Opps bid 2 suits the probabilities of our game are reduced dramatically. 3NT is out of question. Still there is a slight chance for 4♥, but our partner did not overcall 2♦ so in my view best bid for us now is to PASS
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Posted 2004-May-21, 02:27

Pass.
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Posted 2004-May-21, 02:34

Pass

Can be alerted: willing to compete but failed because lack of materials :lol: Kidding of course :blink:

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Posted 2004-May-21, 02:37

Lots of defensive strength here, and no offense. Presumably 2S is forcing, so they'll be going somewhere, and it's not likely you are.

Bring out the pass card very quickly. If partner has a good suit he can bid it, although this is unlikely given his first pass
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Posted 2004-May-21, 02:50

mr1303, on May 21 2004, 03:37 AM, said:

Presumably 2S is forcing

I think you should check this, if it is forcing, pass.
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Posted 2004-May-21, 03:11

OSH, on May 21 2004, 10:50 AM, said:

mr1303, on May 21 2004, 03:37 AM, said:

Presumably 2S is forcing

I think you should check this, if it is forcing, pass.

... and if 2♠ is NF, then also pass, but higher quality one :blink:
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Posted 2004-May-21, 03:21

Pass Pass Pass
add an ace to my hand and still pass, without any problem, add two aces and ill be in a problem since i wouldnt want to pass it but have no easy bid.
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Posted 2004-May-21, 03:25

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add an ace to my hand and still pass, without any problem, add two aces and ill be in a problem since i wouldnt want to pass it but have no easy bid.


5 aces in a hand..... Time to call the director I think
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Posted 2004-May-21, 03:27

Flame, on May 21 2004, 04:21 AM, said:

Pass Pass Pass
add an ace to my hand and still pass, without any problem, add two aces and ill be in a problem since.....

....since you have five aces! :blink:
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Posted 2004-May-21, 03:59

Pass as many others said... My first thought was "is 2♠ forcing?", but it doesn't change my bid. I don't have enough for 2NT, don't have a long suit of my own,... Let partner get into the auction again, nobody plays 2♠ after such auction on my table :blink:
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Posted 2004-May-21, 08:21



This was the hand from a tourney, I passed, 2♠ made.
(3NE was top board)
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Posted 2004-May-21, 10:32

3Nt isn't a contract you want to be in here. Just because the spades happen to block and neither opponent has anything resembling their bids doesn't mean that you want to play it.
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Posted 2004-May-21, 11:25

Not that i see how you are going to make 3nt here, but even if you could it doesnt matter, you cant get 100%, misho has a nice sentence about perfection.
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Posted 2004-May-21, 13:32

Pass.
I have not really any place to play. I will sit back and see what is happening next.

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Posted 2004-May-21, 13:34

If opps alert it as just 5+ suit they have to give more info then that. If it is not forcing it needs to be disclosed.

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Posted 2004-May-21, 18:05

If Sth has any S pip at all 2S goes off anyway. Try 1D 1C 3H and the 13th H. 3N is a poosr contract and I cannot see how it made. If 2S was non forcing it should have been alerted, but as others have said, I would still pass.
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Posted 2004-May-22, 05:12

where is the ♠10?

Blame yourself for not leading a ♦, against 2♠, lol.
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Posted 2004-May-22, 08:11

I have to 10♠ (its shown in the first post)

I led 2♠, taken by A♠
♦return which I won with 9
I returned 3♠ to setup my 10♠
(my bad play I assume)

Which ♦ should I lead and why?

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Posted 2004-May-22, 09:45

Hi Jilly,

Things went wrong when you led A♥, which lets them make a trick with Q♥. A club (possibly safest), diamond, low heart, or low spade would have been ok on the actual distribution ;) You can use Deep Finesse to help analyse the play, though remember it's a double dummy solver so won't always suggest the 'correct' play,

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