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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2009-April-29, 22:26

2/1 auction - red / white

1 - pass - 2 - 4
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Please construct hands for the following:

1. 4
2. Double
3. Pass and a pull of a double to 4
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Posted 2009-April-29, 22:29

1. AJ10xxx KQxxx x J

2. AJ10xx KQxx KJx x

3. AQJ10x AKxxx x Qx
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 22:52

Pass and pull to 4H is typically 64. Direct 4H is typically 55. Double is good diamonds.
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Posted 2009-April-29, 23:34

JLOL, on Apr 30 2009, 04:52 PM, said:

Pass and pull to 4H is typically 64. Direct 4H is typically 55. Double is good diamonds.

Both doubles?

The one you would make and the one partner makes that you are pulling?
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Posted 2009-April-30, 03:10

This situation requires clear agreements with pard. I'm glad it's rather uncommon :unsure:
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Posted 2009-April-30, 03:15

Lets say the Opener held: JT9xx, Qxxxx, AK, x. Would you say this was a clear 4 call?

I don't know about you, but this isnt an opener for me, but it was the hand in question.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 04:30

I don't think it's obvious. In fact, I would pass 4 and leave pard's double in!!

Heck, pard may have a 2326 or someting and we can't make a thing.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 09:13

Direct 4H: Decent 5-5/6-4, more 5-5's
X: Diamonds
Pass and 4H: 5-4/5-5/6-4

The hand in question I'd pass and pass partner's double.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 09:52

Phil, on Apr 30 2009, 04:15 AM, said:

Lets say the Opener held: JT9xx, Qxxxx, AK, x. Would you say this was a clear 4 call?

I don't know about you, but this isnt an opener for me, but it was the hand in question.

I would double 4. Don't know if I'm nuts or not.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 12:08

Pass and pull is stronger (or 6-4) than direct 4H (distributional and unwilling to defend 4DX). Double indicates some trump tricks in 4DX and inclined to defend. If partner pulls, we are trying for slam. I liked han's examples.
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