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♠AJ87
♥9xx
♦Y
♣AKT52
You open 1♣ and partner bids 1♠. What is the minimum value for "Y" that you would bid 3♠ on.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 09:05
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Posted 2009-April-27, 09:07
K.
Is 3D not an option?
Is 3D not an option?
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Posted 2009-April-27, 09:09
3♦ can be used as a shapely raise (3♥ asks shortness), and if so, I would bid it with "J" otherwise I need at least "K"
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Posted 2009-April-27, 09:52
Definitely yes with the A and definitely no with the Q. I would probably just bid 2 at MP with the K, and 3 at imps.
edit: OK in real life I'd probably always bid 3 with the K.
edit2: If HAN bids 3 with the king then it's obv right.
edit: OK in real life I'd probably always bid 3 with the K.
edit2: If HAN bids 3 with the king then it's obv right.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 10:18
To be honest I went to a similar thought process as you. Definitely with the ace and definitely not with the queen. With the king? Well, if I'm even considering 3S then it has to be right.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 10:20
The K seems just about fine for that action.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 10:47
I should have mentioned its MPs. I 3♠'d anyway, but think like Justin and Han.
The "Y" was the K.
3♦ works better - for some reason I didn't consider it, although I didn't think that was the crux of the issue. Pard held: KQxx, x, QT9xx, 9xx, and couldn't quite bring it home when trumps blew 4-1.
The "Y" was the K.
3♦ works better - for some reason I didn't consider it, although I didn't think that was the crux of the issue. Pard held: KQxx, x, QT9xx, 9xx, and couldn't quite bring it home when trumps blew 4-1.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 10:47
As I play that 3♦ shows either a mini-splinter or a better than game forcing splinter, x is sufficient for a 3♦ call.
We could be playing with a deck of close to 30 HCP on this hand if partner has a fair hand with no duplication.
I would never bid 3♠ with a side suit singleton and 4 card support.
We could be playing with a deck of close to 30 HCP on this hand if partner has a fair hand with no duplication.
I would never bid 3♠ with a side suit singleton and 4 card support.
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