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2/1 after major rebid

Poll: your bid: (27 member(s) have cast votes)

your bid:

  1. 2N (8 votes [29.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.63%

  2. 3C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3D (16 votes [59.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.26%

  4. 3H (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  5. 3S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3N (1 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  7. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   rbforster 

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Posted 2009-April-17, 23:36

You respond to partner's 1 opening with a 2/1 game force, and partner makes a "catchall" 2 rebid (promising no better bid, could be only 5).

Scoring: MP

1-2
2-?

What's your bid and what's your plan? If partner keeps bidding spades (as seems likely from your perspective), how will you decide if he has 6 or 7?
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#2 User is offline   karlson 

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Posted 2009-April-17, 23:47

My usual style is for responder to bid 2n on a lot of hands, and opener can bid a good 3-card fragment over that if he wants to, over which responder can bid 3s with a doubleton and opener can raise to 4 (or cue). Therefore if he does bid 3s over 3n, it's 7 or a very good 6.
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Posted 2009-April-18, 03:35

i chose 3d. in my regular partnership 3s after would show 6 and i would probably rebid 3nt. if he really doesnt like 3nt then he will bid 4s.
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Posted 2009-April-18, 04:28

I think this hand cannot benefit from any lead so I try 3, maybe partner can bid 3NT.
If he can't, I'll bid 3NT in the next round.

I don't introduce hearts, there is no fit.
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Posted 2009-April-18, 07:09

In my preferred methods, where a 3 rebid is invitational here, I'd rebid 2NT, having no other alternative bid (3 is hopeless IMO).

In a regular 2/1 style, I'm not sure what I'd do. Both 2NT and 3 has merit.
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Posted 2009-April-18, 11:52

I would bid 2N, because this gives partner an opportunity to bid conveniently. 3 may endplay him in the auction. 2N means he won't rebid Axxxxx in spades, as he might be forced to over 3...if he rebids 3 over 2N, I raise him rather than bidding 3N where we may have only one stopper in either clubs or hearts... I'd be particularly worried about clubs here.

But 3 is a close 2nd choice...3 is a travesty.
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Posted 2009-April-18, 13:00

obv 2N.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 01:18

3. Six good diamonds, why not!

Though 2NT might work as well...
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Posted 2009-April-19, 01:30

I understand 2nt but obv?..........that seems hard.....


granted I do not play 2s as random weak rebid.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 01:57

Thanks for the replies.

At the table I bid 2N rather than 3, trying to avoid endplaying partner who might need only Jxx to sustain our club stop and not realize it. Still with something in both side suits (which we'd like for 3N), partner might well have chosen 2N has his first rebid rather than 2, so it seems he likely to not have one of them stopped.

1-2
2-2N
3-?

Over 2N (or 3), partner bid 3 and I bid 3N not wanting to raise what might have been a 6 card suit on a small stiff. Was I suppose to raise with a stiff here (as some suggested)?

When partner has 7 spades, is he expected to pull 3N here to 4, or is there no way to diagnose the 7-1 fit here? Alternatively, with only 6 (6322 or 6223) partner doesn't have a really descriptive bid besides 3 - 3 or 3 would be natural 4+ with a minimum, 3 on Qx doesn't seem right, and 3N could be a 5(332) hand lacking one of the outside stops.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 02:25

Over 3 you should bid 3NT. If partner has 7 spades or spades that need no support he should pull.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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