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Best play for 3N I fell from grace

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Posted 2004-May-15, 06:29

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W------N------ E------S
2C!(1)-3H----P(2)----P
3N-----X------P-------P
P
(1) Strong 2 in an unspecified suit
(2) Dubious - prefer either 3N or X, but no damage - not relevant
North leads AK, South following.
Plan the play

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Posted 2004-May-15, 09:46

If you say you fell from grace, it is big clue for some spectacular unblocking.

Unblock A & K under the K & Q and take the hook when you get an entry to the dummy

If they shift to after cashing only the top 2 clubs, then you have tempo to establish the spade entry to dummy to take the finnesse
Bridge Players do it with Finesse
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Posted 2004-May-15, 10:30

You said AK of clubs but didnt say what continued, i am guessing heart.
play AK of diamond you cant afford not trying for 3-2 diamond (or sng 10/Q) even if its a question in a forum.
If diamonds doesnt work, play a spade to dummy, then play club, they take and come back with heart, take that play A of spade and another spade, they will let give you the entry entry.
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Posted 2004-May-15, 16:35

Not being told what card they play after the A K of . Will wait for that and then give my answer.

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Posted 2004-May-15, 17:30

the next card will be told after you discard fromyour hand of course.

I donīt see the danger discarding a as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and A and exit with a , my 9 tricks are:

3, 3, 2, 1.
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Posted 2004-May-15, 17:42

the best discard is diamond, if diamonds work you will have enough tricks anyway.
Discarding a spade is not good because on a heart continuation if the diamonds doesnt work you will be left with short of entries to dummy.
discarding the A of spade isnt good either because then you will lose 5 tricks if diamonds are 3-2 (3 clubs 1D 1S)
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Posted 2004-May-15, 17:45

Fluffy, on May 15 2004, 06:30 PM, said:

the next card will be told after you discard fromyour hand of course.

I donīt see the danger discarding a as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and A and exit with a , my 9 tricks are:

3, 3, 2, 1.

They doesnt have to play the club for you ;)
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Posted 2004-May-16, 03:29

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Well done all. As you surmise, the "sleepy" low discard at trick 2 is the trap (they continue with Q and switch to . Now you cannot avoid 2 more losers out of the K, Q and T).

The flamboyant discard of as suggested works, although a low discard works as well. Even the A discard works.

If are 4-0 and K is in the same hand as 5th then I suspect there is no play to make so you assume otherwise. Assuming you discard correctly on K I suppose the best defence is to clear the suit to keep you worried about entries to the long even though there aren't any.
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Posted 2004-May-16, 08:18

Arg!!! south is gonna end play me to give him Q+3+K :-(((
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Posted 2004-May-16, 09:28

Minor correction:
Discarding A at trick 2 fails (by switch at trick 3).
Discarding A at trick 3 on continuation is still OK, however.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Posted 2004-May-16, 12:59

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