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Best play for 3N I fell from grace
#1
Posted 2004-May-15, 06:29
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Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#2
Posted 2004-May-15, 09:46
If you say you fell from grace, it is big clue for some spectacular unblocking.
Unblock ♥A & ♥K under the ♣K & ♣Q and take the ♦ hook when you get an entry to the dummy
If they shift to ♥ after cashing only the top 2 clubs, then you have tempo to establish the spade entry to dummy to take the ♦ finnesse
Unblock ♥A & ♥K under the ♣K & ♣Q and take the ♦ hook when you get an entry to the dummy
If they shift to ♥ after cashing only the top 2 clubs, then you have tempo to establish the spade entry to dummy to take the ♦ finnesse
♥ Bridge Players do it with Finesse ♥
#3
Posted 2004-May-15, 10:30
You said AK of clubs but didnt say what continued, i am guessing heart.
play AK of diamond you cant afford not trying for 3-2 diamond (or sng 10/Q) even if its a question in a forum.
If diamonds doesnt work, play a spade to dummy, then play club, they take and come back with heart, take that play A of spade and another spade, they will let give you the entry entry.
play AK of diamond you cant afford not trying for 3-2 diamond (or sng 10/Q) even if its a question in a forum.
If diamonds doesnt work, play a spade to dummy, then play club, they take and come back with heart, take that play A of spade and another spade, they will let give you the entry entry.
#4
Posted 2004-May-15, 16:35
Not being told what card they play after the A K of ♣. Will wait for that and then give my answer.
Mike
Mike
If there is dissatisfaction with the status quo, good. If there is ferment,
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.
#5
Posted 2004-May-15, 17:30
the next card will be told after you discard fromyour hand of course.
I donīt see the danger discarding a ♠ as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if ♣ are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on ♦ finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and ♦A and exit with a ♠, my 9 tricks are:
3♠, 3♥, 2♦, 1♣.
I donīt see the danger discarding a ♠ as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if ♣ are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on ♦ finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and ♦A and exit with a ♠, my 9 tricks are:
3♠, 3♥, 2♦, 1♣.
#6
Posted 2004-May-15, 17:42
the best discard is diamond, if diamonds work you will have enough tricks anyway.
Discarding a spade is not good because on a heart continuation if the diamonds doesnt work you will be left with short of entries to dummy.
discarding the A of spade isnt good either because then you will lose 5 tricks if diamonds are 3-2 (3 clubs 1D 1S)
Discarding a spade is not good because on a heart continuation if the diamonds doesnt work you will be left with short of entries to dummy.
discarding the A of spade isnt good either because then you will lose 5 tricks if diamonds are 3-2 (3 clubs 1D 1S)
#7
Posted 2004-May-15, 17:45
Fluffy, on May 15 2004, 06:30 PM, said:
the next card will be told after you discard fromyour hand of course.
I donīt see the danger discarding a ♠ as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if ♣ are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on ♦ finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and ♦A and exit with a ♠, my 9 tricks are:
3♠, 3♥, 2♦, 1♣.
I donīt see the danger discarding a ♠ as long as I donīt block the suit if they swith to it, if ♣ are 5-3 Iīll need to bank on ♦ finese or drop, but if it isnīt just cash top major hjonors and ♦A and exit with a ♠, my 9 tricks are:
3♠, 3♥, 2♦, 1♣.
They doesnt have to play the club for you
#8
Posted 2004-May-16, 03:29
Scoring: IMP
Well done all. As you surmise, the "sleepy" low ♠ discard at trick 2 is the trap (they continue with ♣Q and switch to ♥. Now you cannot avoid 2 more losers out of the ♠K, ♦Q and ♦T).
The flamboyant discard of ♥ as suggested works, although a low ♦ discard works as well. Even the ♠A discard works.
If ♦ are 4-0 and ♠K is in the same hand as 5th ♣ then I suspect there is no play to make so you assume otherwise. Assuming you discard correctly on ♣K I suppose the best defence is to clear the ♣ suit to keep you worried about entries to the long ♣ even though there aren't any.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#10
Posted 2004-May-16, 09:28
Minor correction:
Discarding ♠A at trick 2 fails (by ♠ switch at trick 3).
Discarding ♠A at trick 3 on ♣ continuation is still OK, however.
Discarding ♠A at trick 2 fails (by ♠ switch at trick 3).
Discarding ♠A at trick 3 on ♣ continuation is still OK, however.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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2C!(1)-3H----P(2)----P
3N-----X------P-------P
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(1) Strong 2 in an unspecified suit
(2) Dubious - prefer either 3N or X, but no damage - not relevant
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