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Posted 2009-April-07, 00:35

Scoring: MP

your bid?

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Posted 2009-April-07, 00:44

Pass unless there is a bid to show weak minor 2 suiter like tartan 2NT.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 01:03

Pass! At least one of the other 3 player will have an opening, so you will be able to bid later.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 01:42

Pass, unless you have a bid to show both minors. Even then I would only do this nv as the lack of honours in the D suit is a bit scary.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 03:25

3D if my hand was - xx AJxxxx xxxxx. But this one I pass and plan to come back in with 2NT showing both minors since we are favourable and can have a good sac.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 03:49

Seems like a pass, even playing 2NT as minors :)
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:09

Pass. Even if 2NT was minors, I would probably pass.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:30

Easy pass for me playing 2NT as natural.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:42

I have no idea why anyone would pass if 2NT was minors, at any vul.

But like the others, I have no idea why anyone would bid if you can't show the minors.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:47

I'd bid 2NT NV where it shows the minors. Vulnerable, I play it stronger.

Other than that, definite pass. No safety for a diamond preempt, it probably gets partner off to the second (or third) best lead, and it's unilateral when you might very well be reasonably well suited to compete in clubs.

It's got the same plus all preempts have - the opponents might land in the wrong spot -- but it's far outweighed by the minuses.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:58

Even I can't preempt with no honors in my suit, as much as I like my hand.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 11:05

Further downside: It's got defense in the form of an outside ace and potential spade ruff(s), should the opponents end up in hearts. So if you preempt, you could end up in the wrong suit (vs. clubs), you could get killed in the right suit, and you could induce a sacrifice over a game contract that wasn't going to make. Or you could NOT sacrifice and it makes only because your bid tipped partner the wrong way on a close lead decision.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 12:10

yes, wtp pass.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 13:15

White on red? 2♦ weak could be fun.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 13:43

kenrexford, on Apr 7 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

White on red? 2♦ weak could be fun.

Opening 7♦ could be fun too.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 13:48

jdonn, on Apr 7 2009, 02:43 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Apr 7 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

White on red?  2♦ weak could be fun.

Opening 7♦ could be fun too.

I suppose I should say that opening 2♦ could be fun and could actually work often enough to be worth consideration. If, that is, partner has a sense of humor.

7♦ seems less likely to succeed.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 16:13

Ok, this was a hand I had at the club last night - I'm not feeling quite so smart about it today.



Scoring: MP

1♦ (4♥) 4♠ (X)

P (4nt) AP

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Posted 2009-April-08, 12:47

Pass.

If you have agreed, that 4Nt showes the minors,
this would be perfect, but this is no BI agreement,
and should not be on the to of your priority list
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Posted 2009-April-08, 13:28

FWIW, gave this to a semi-pro friend of mine, who opened 2♦ but considered 3♦.
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Posted 2009-April-08, 14:28

kenrexford, on Apr 8 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

FWIW, gave this to a semi-pro friend of mine, who opened 2♦ but considered 3♦.

That's why he's a "Semi-Pro" :)
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