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- - - 1♣
Pass 1♥ 2♦ 2♥
2♠ 3♥ 3♠ Pass
Pass 4♣ Pass ?
Do you agree with the bidding so far? What now?
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Posted 2009-April-04, 09:36
West North East South
- - - 1♣
Pass 1♥ 2♦ 2♥
2♠ 3♥ 3♠ Pass
Pass 4♣ Pass ?
Do you agree with the bidding so far? What now?
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Posted 2009-April-04, 09:38
4♥, if we are gonna play this, we might as well be in game. And yes, I agree with previous bidding.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 09:40
Hi:
4H.
Partner is giving you a choice of contracts "since" you have a 3 card H raise.
The 3H bid in this auction suggests 5, so you have an easy 4H bid now.
Regards,
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4H.
Partner is giving you a choice of contracts "since" you have a 3 card H raise.
The 3H bid in this auction suggests 5, so you have an easy 4H bid now.
Regards,
Robert
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Posted 2009-April-04, 09:43
spotlight7, on Apr 4 2009, 08:40 AM, said:
Partner is giving you a choice of contracts "since" you have a 3 card H raise.
I dont understand this comment
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spotlight7, on Apr 4 2009, 10:40 AM, said:
Hi:
4H.
Partner is giving you a choice of contracts "since" you have a 3 card H raise.
The 3H bid in this auction suggests 5, so you have an easy 4H bid now.
Regards,
Robert
4H.
Partner is giving you a choice of contracts "since" you have a 3 card H raise.
The 3H bid in this auction suggests 5, so you have an easy 4H bid now.
Regards,
Robert
We could have made a support double, so partner should play us for 4♥.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 09:56
4♥.
I agree with Souths bidding, but I don't know about North yet.
All in all it looks like a double fit situation and 3♠ could very well make, so North does well to compete.
Worse than -100 would be quite unlucky.
I agree with Souths bidding, but I don't know about North yet.
All in all it looks like a double fit situation and 3♠ could very well make, so North does well to compete.
Worse than -100 would be quite unlucky.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:12
This is kind of a humorous situation. I have seen this before, many times.
The hand may well make four of anything. Even if 4♠ can be set a trick, we might not double, so defending 4♠ might yield a very uncomfortable +100.
If we bid 4♥, we expect to fail, but this might just make. The opponents probably will see the risk of -420 and take the insurance out anyway.
So, bidding 4♥ probably yields a nervous +100 but might yield a very unfortunate -620.
4♣, on the other hand, may well be the best contract. If 4♣ makes, we score +130, which beats +100 for setting 4♠ undoubled, wih much less stress. Plus, the opponents have a problem. If they sacrifice over 4♣, they risk -500 against a partscore.
Hence, passing 4♣ in this sequence seems to often yield the best actual score in a real world.
The hand may well make four of anything. Even if 4♠ can be set a trick, we might not double, so defending 4♠ might yield a very uncomfortable +100.
If we bid 4♥, we expect to fail, but this might just make. The opponents probably will see the risk of -420 and take the insurance out anyway.
So, bidding 4♥ probably yields a nervous +100 but might yield a very unfortunate -620.
4♣, on the other hand, may well be the best contract. If 4♣ makes, we score +130, which beats +100 for setting 4♠ undoubled, wih much less stress. Plus, the opponents have a problem. If they sacrifice over 4♣, they risk -500 against a partscore.
Hence, passing 4♣ in this sequence seems to often yield the best actual score in a real world.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:19
Bid 4♥.
There's a lot of upside when its right.
For pass to be right the opponents need to score a club ruff or some other odd parlay playing in hearts.
There's a lot of upside when its right.
For pass to be right the opponents need to score a club ruff or some other odd parlay playing in hearts.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:22
Personally I think 4♣ is an impossible bid for partner, since he should know I would always bid 4♥ over it and play for game. Ken I'm really not worried about the opponents saving since our auction sounds like we won't make and the vul is unfavorable. In fact having not bid game vul already they would be nuts to save regardless of their hands.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:32
Disagree with the bidding so far, but I'd have to see partner's hand to know which bid I disagree with.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 18:08
Scoring: IMP
West North East South
- - - 1♣
Pass 1♥ 2♦ 2♥
2♠ 3♥ 3♠ Pass
Pass 4♣ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
Here's the full hand
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Posted 2009-April-04, 20:03
I think partner thought 3H was a gametry or something, I don't know. 3H here is just competitive, not forward going.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:37
jillybean2, on Apr 4 2009, 07:08 PM, said:
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West North East South
- - - 1♣
Pass 1♥ 2♦ 2♥
2♠ 3♥ 3♠ Pass
Pass 4♣ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
Here's the full hand
I think North should bid 3♣ over 2♠. That shows the double fit and invitational values. This takes North off a guess over 3♠. South can then bid 4♥ over 3♠ as a save / possible make.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 21:40
I am also a 4♥ bidder here after PD's 4♣
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Posted 2009-April-07, 06:45
I don't agree with partner's 3♥. Maybe 3♣, but inviting on this hand when we have a third of our values wasted is not a good idea. 4♥ is the bid over 4♣, but I bet hearts were 4-1, weren't they?
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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:11
Scoring: IMP
West North East South
- - - 1♣
Pass 1♥ 2♦ 2♥
2♠ 3♥ 3♠ Pass
Pass 4♣ Pass 4♥
Pass Pass Pass
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