[Mbodell]

Scoring: MP

Opponents silent
P-1♠
3♠-4♣
4♠-4nt
5♦-5♠

Opening lead small ♥ and east plays the J.

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edited: I switched dummy's minor suits in original post, edited to fix after jlol's post.

[JLOL]

You can try to lose one spade and one heart or you can go for 2 spade losers.

I think club over and DK is right.

[Trumpace]

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[xcurt]

Agree with LOL, you are going to need 2-2 clubs, the [DA] on, and either two spade honors tight onside or a good guess in spades.

This is one sick MP contract by the way. Just get to 4♠ quickly and make them defend blindly.

[hanp]

3S was an overbid.

[gnasher]

Suppose that you play a club to dummy and run ♦K, throwing a heart, but LHO wins and returns a club. Now you're down, but you may go two down by misguessing trumps.

If you're going to take a ruffing finesse, I think it's better to lead a trump from hand first. Say they win and play another heart. Now club to dummy, ♦K losing to the ace, club, and when you lead a spade you'll often be able to avoid a guess. That will save half a matchpoint against any declarer who goes down in 4♠, either by misplaying it or by getting an evil club lead. It costs only if RHO has ♠AQ doubleton.

3♠ may have been an overbid, but South's actions were horrible.

[JLOL]

Gnasher I think your line loses a lot more often than you think. If LHO has for instance Ax of spades and 3 clubs they can get a club ruff to beat you because you led a spade out of your hand. If you hadn't done that they'd be ruffing with a natural trick.

[hanp]

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3♠ may have been an overbid, but South's actions were horrible.

Yes I didn't even look that far. This auction is pretty scary.

[gnasher]

JLOL, on Apr 2 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

Gnasher I think your line loses a lot more often than you think. If LHO has for instance Ax of spades and 3 clubs they can get a club ruff to beat you because you led a spade out of your hand. If you hadn't done that they'd be ruffing with a natural trick.

On that layout don't we both run into a ruff? You're playing a club to dummy, taking a ruffing diamond finesse, and then trying to get back with another club, aren't you? The second club will be ruffed, and you'll be forced to lead spades from hand, reaching the same position as me.

I'm starting to really regret that optimistic 4NT bid.

[JLOL]

gnasher, on Apr 2 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

JLOL, on Apr 2 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

Gnasher I think your line loses a lot more often than you think. If LHO has for instance Ax of spades and 3 clubs they can get a club ruff to beat you because you led a spade out of your hand. If you hadn't done that they'd be ruffing with a natural trick.

On that layout don't we both run into a ruff? You're playing a club to dummy, taking a ruffing diamond finesse, and then trying to get back with another club, aren't you? The second club will be ruffed, and you'll be forced to lead spades from hand, reaching the same position as me.

I'm starting to really regret that optimistic 4NT bid.

oh wow i thought we had a 53 club fit lol

oh he changed the hand on me, see his edit.