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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:21

Scoring: IMP

2♦-p-3♦-x
p-?

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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:25

REDEAL :)

3♥ for me. Maybe they won't double :D
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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:26

I'd bid 3♥ so that if partner bids 3♠ I can pass.

If I bid 3♠ one of two things will happen. Partner will raise or partner will bid 4-round.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:30

3♥ wtp?

Maybe the problem is that parnter owes me a beer? :)
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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:35

3♥ hoping PD passes and hoping to be able to pass most anything PD rebids.

No way can I gamble that we can set 3♦x as it is game if they make.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:16

I guess I'd pass and take my medicine.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:17

They're not vul so pass is the smallest-looking minus available. And on a good day partner is like AK AK AK AK AK BAM!
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:23

I will at least consider passing.

Partner is marked with a monster of a hand. One opp opens a weak 2 bid, we are broke, and all third hand can do is further the preempt? Plus, we can be fairly certain that if we bid 3♥, partner will not pass it with his 18+ hcp and his likely diamond void.

I actually believe that pass is likely to turn out to be the winning call.

However, I am chicken and not taking this risk at IMP's (I would if it was MP). 3♥ for me.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2009-April-01, 12:33

Pard is marked with a big, BIG hand (if he had a not-so-hot hand, LHO would have moved over 2♦).

Pass will usually work well if pard's big hand is of the balanced kind, but that's unlikely because 1. he rates to have a singleton diamond and 2. he could have bid 3NT if he did have that big NT hand.

Pass will also work well if pard has a 4414, but I think that's less likely than him having a 5431 or 5440 shape.

Therefore we conclude 3♥ is probably the best call here.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 13:30

Pass for me at these colors. 470/570/670 is more palatable than 500/800/1100.

On a good day we'll even beat it.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 14:39

Pass. I need to stop the speeding at my table.

I should add that passing might get a big win even if it's only +100, if other tables are like -300, thats already 9 IMPs.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 14:58

Pass out of fear.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 15:25

Great to have you back Justin!
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Posted 2009-April-01, 15:31

655321, on Apr 1 2009, 04:25 PM, said:

Great to have you back Justin!

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Posted 2009-April-01, 16:50

JLOL, on Apr 1 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

I guess I'd pass and take my medicine.

I sure hope you do :mellow:
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Posted 2009-April-02, 00:07

3H. Pass, if 3D makes, is likely to erode partner confidence.
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Posted 2009-April-02, 03:28

Sorry, no hand for this one.

There was some novice playing with Brad Moss in the junior table and the novice doubled and moved with some 2NT opening over 3♥ on

2♦-p-3♦-x
p-3♥

and one of the experts said pd could have xxx xxx xxxx xxx!!! and I mentally replied 'hmm... that looks like a pass to me' and wanted to ask others.

Of course technically she's right, pd could have that hand, since many people would bid 3♥ on it.
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Posted 2009-April-02, 07:34

The junior bid 4NT!! The after partner showed no keycards, pushed for slam with his balanced 21 count. Needless to say, after a little misdefense, Moss went down 1 in 6♥. The moral of this story is: LOL.
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Posted 2009-April-02, 08:37

Probably right though to move on with the 21-count. :)
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Posted 2009-April-02, 08:39

Brad Moss is the man.

I think imagining partner on a balanced 21 count makes pass even more clear. Would you rather be defending 3♦X or playing 4♥X?
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