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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-April-01, 03:14

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Posted 2009-April-01, 03:19

Presumably East was subbed out to be executed?
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Posted 2009-April-01, 04:04

N/S can make 3NT and maybe 4♠ but E/W are so going down in whatever they play, so either something doubled by E/W or 3NT by N/S.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-April-01, 04:22

1S 2D P P
2H P 3NT P
4H P 4S

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Posted 2009-April-01, 05:02

1S-(2D)-p
3H-3N
4H-pass

1 down. Frances wins.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 09:33

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2009, 05:22 AM, said:

1S 2D P P
2H P 3NT P
4H P 4S

next case

Why would south not pass 4♥? Or was this sarcastic because of the breaks in the majors?

Also what am I missing, why is everyone saying 4♥ is down?
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Posted 2009-April-01, 10:11

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2009, 01:22 PM, said:

1S 2D P P
2H P 3NT P
4H P 4S

next case

I agree with all this, except for the 4♠ bid...

I think that I'd pass instead
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:14

I would definitely be tempted to reopen with 3H with such a strong player, but since partner is a lock to have a trap pass of diamonds I think 2H is fine.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:21

jdonn, on Apr 1 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Also what am I missing, why is everyone saying 4♥ is down?

doesn't it depend on who has the 8 of hearts, whether 4H makes or not?

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I would definitely be tempted to reopen with 3H with such a strong player, but since partner is a lock to have a trap pass of diamonds I think 2H is fine.


I've never thought about what a 3H re-opening should show. I think I'd like a slightly better hand.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:31

OP edited now
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:37

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2009, 12:21 PM, said:

doesn't it depend on who has the 8 of hearts, whether 4H makes or not?

I think you still make by shortening your hand twice, having taken 6 black tricks, two ruffs in hand, and the ♥A (and lost one diamond trick), you have ♥JTx and RHO ♥KQ9, and you can make one trick even though the lead is in your hand.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 11:43

xcurt, on Apr 1 2009, 12:37 PM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2009, 12:21 PM, said:

doesn't it depend on who has the 8 of hearts, whether 4H makes or not?

I think you still make by shortening your hand twice, having taken 6 black tricks, two ruffs in hand, and the ♥A (and lost one diamond trick), you have ♥JTx and RHO ♥KQ9, and you can make one trick even though the lead is in your hand.

If we play trumps by leading to the ace and leading back to JT, we are going to lose two trumps and a diamond. Am I missing something?
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Posted 2009-April-01, 12:09

Sure does look like 4♥ will make easily. The opponents can't force declarer, so declarer has time to pull trump and win 10 tricks.
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Posted 2009-April-01, 14:00

Yeah, obvious way to play the hearts makes the suit a two-tricks-loser only.

...But I hadn't noticed till it was pointed out.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-April-01, 14:37

This thread is wow...
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Posted 2009-April-02, 06:59

I don't understand why Frances is playing in 4♠ instead of 4♥.

My auction is identical to Helene's. I think this is fairly normal and I'd be surprised to see something different.

And 4♥ should surely make?
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