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#1 User is offline   beauchamp0 

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Posted 2009-March-28, 00:19

Interesting situation came up tonight.

North had A98 8743 A964 J5

and the bidding went

South West North East
1 P 2 P
3 P ?

where 2 was constructive and 3 a short suit game-try.

North finally bid 4 but South dropped the ball and simply bid 4, because of a lack of primary controls.

Sitting West, once the hand was over I congratulated North on his bid, but he answered that he simply did not know what to do, feeling he had too much for any other bid!

I told him that he had inadvertently invented a congratulation bid: "Partner, I'm maximum for my previous bidding, have no wasted values in , and 2 key cards."

I stopped playing in 1992 and started again 8 months ago, so I imagine that since then someone has suggested that treatment, but I don't remember seeing it in print or hearing about it between 1974 and 1993. :D
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Posted 2009-March-28, 01:09

I don't understand the 4H bid either, but it would have to be some specific partnership agreement. I would have considered that the choices available to North are:
1) 3S = wasted Heart values and/or no game interest
2) 3N = contract suggestion, wasted H values, maximum total values, likely to be a risky and speculative gamble.
4) 4S = heard enough. Either no wasted values or maximum with a bit of wastage.
5) Anything else = highly suitable, no wasted values in H.

Thus, on this hand, if I am not going to bid 4S with North over the 3H trial, I would bid 4D rather than 4H, which I would expect to show a diamond control, deny a club control, deny wasted Heart values, and accept the game try with a good hand in context. This I think would help South a bit more than a nebulous 4H bid.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 01:32

Yes David, I agree. 4H is an excellent bid showing no wasted values in the H suit and controls outside.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 02:38

On reflection I agree with Hog. My point was that ALL bids other than 3S, 3N and 4S show a good 4S raise without wasted Heart values and good controls. So that alone does not distinguish the merits of 4H from (say) 4m. But I think 4m should show a source of tricks in the suit bid, and 4D does not really cut the mustard.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 06:56

4 is brilliant... if pard can understand it. Else 4 is better :blink:
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Posted 2009-March-28, 07:34

4 is a Bluhmer - "A call, often a jump bid, which encourages high-level action, usually a slam-try, by denying values opposite partner's short suit." - based on the 1993/12 The Bridge World Jim Foster article, and named after ACBL Hall of Fame member Lou Bluhm.

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