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How many Diamonds?

Poll: How many Diamonds? (39 member(s) have cast votes)

How many Diamonds?

  1. 0 (Pass) (2 votes [5.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.13%

  2. 1 (3 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  3. 2 (1 votes [2.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.56%

  4. 3 (7 votes [17.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.95%

  5. 4 (16 votes [41.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.03%

  6. 5 (10 votes [25.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.64%

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#21 User is offline   andy_h 

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Posted 2009-March-26, 22:12

lonesome31, on Mar 27 2009, 12:36 PM, said:

huh?
Nobody PASS?
I would like open 3 or 4 ♦ when 2nd/3rd seat.
But DEALER? PASS!

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Posted 2009-March-26, 22:17

lonesome31, on Mar 27 2009, 08:36 AM, said:

huh?
Nobody PASS?
I would like open 3 or 4 ♦ when 2nd/3rd seat.
But DEALER? PASS!

Perhaps you might like to tell us why you would pass this in first seat?
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Posted 2009-March-26, 22:23

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Posted 2009-March-27, 03:43

4♦ for me. Playing strength is adequate, despite not-so-hot trumps.

5♦ is an overkill (pard may be lurking with majors) and 1 is.. well.. not really reflecitve of my shape and strength.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 05:44

I agree with EricK.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 07:58

I'm bidding 3♦. I would bid 4♦ in 3rd seat.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:13

hanp, on Mar 26 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

You are all so predictable.

I knew you were going to say that
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Posted 2009-March-27, 13:26

mikeh, on Mar 27 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

hanp, on Mar 26 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

You are all so predictable.

I knew you were going to say that

Who's most predictable then? :unsure:
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Posted 2009-March-27, 13:29

I've got too much potential for 2♦ and 3♦, those bids wouldn't enter my mind at all with this hand (neither would pass). I don't like my suit for 5♦. So it's either 1♦ or 4♦ - both are fine with me. Normally I'd go for 4♦, that's the preempt I like most of all.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 23:06

Wow - w/r. 5♦ for me because of the 7-4 and short majors.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 11:04

4♦ is an excellent and effective preempt here. Yes, sometimes the opps will get to a making 4M when 5♦ would have shut them out, but on some of those hands, the opps would have been endplayed into doubling 5♦ and it goes off 3 tricks as the suit isn't so good.

The big gains come from 4♦ when the opps play in the wrong major or when they walk into a stack in PD's hand and go set a couple tricks doubled. Another fun occurance will be when LHO X's 4♦ and RHO has 6♣'s and bids 5♣. Other times, the opps may be cold for 10 tricks in 4M but neither vulnerable opp will be brave enough to compete and you may even buy the hand undoubled. The huge gains are when the opps go minus having missed a making game in another strain.

I don't hate 5♦ but I'd honestly like a better suit for it and I feel that 4♦ will result in enough bad guesses/contracts/decisions from the opps to be correct. Of course there are times when 5♦ results in 5M-1 or 5M+1 (when the opps find slam after 4♦) This is why I don't hate 5♦, but I do think it simply hands the opps 300 or even 500 too often and easily.

This hand isn't good enough for 1♦ for me with no aces and 9 HCP, the suggestion to bid only 2♦ is a ;) at these colors and to be honest I'd open 3♦ with colors reversed.

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