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big void hand! yay!

#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-March-25, 14:32

Jxxx
ATxx
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KJxxx

1-x-p-2
x-p-3-?

what would (should) x and p mean?

what do you bid?

IMPs favourable (does it matter?)
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Posted 2009-March-25, 14:43

4 wtp?
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Posted 2009-March-25, 15:49

Double of 3 is for penalties.

Pass says you have nothing more to say that you haven't already said with your 2 bid.

On this hand you should bid 4 - partner must bid a game in the unbid suit of his choosing.

And no, the form of scoring and the vulnerability makes no difference on this hand.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 16:02

Should p's pass deny a 4-card major? If so I pass and convert p's double to 4.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 16:22

What do you think partner's pass of 2x means? I'd expect him to bid a major if he had one, so this suggests 3325 or 3334. I'd just bid 5.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-March-25, 16:36

i get this funny feeling p has a pile of diamonds :)
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Posted 2009-March-25, 16:59

matmat, on Mar 25 2009, 02:36 PM, said:

i get this funny feeling p has a pile of diamonds :)

I think you may spectate too many random BBO tables.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 17:06

I agree partner likely has 33 in the majors, so I would bid clubs. At the game level.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 17:16

Agree with 5. Not only is 4 not obvious but it's clearly wrong (at least if you intend to pass a 4-major bid) since partner will automatically bid a major here, even if 3-3, expecting us to be longer in the majors.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 20:01

gwnn, on Mar 25 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

Jxxx
ATxx
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KJxxx

1-x-p-2
x-p-3-?

what would (should) x and p mean?

what do you bid?

IMPs favourable (does it matter?)

x is penalty (i.e. clearly wrong). P is ok, but i like 3 best here. Doesnt matter vul or not.

Bill
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Posted 2009-March-26, 13:19

x of 3 is penalties. Pass over 2x should deny a 4-card major. I'm bidding 5 now - as several others.
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