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Meckwell use of 1NT for raise of overcall

#1 User is offline   TimG 

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Posted 2009-March-18, 08:38

In today's Daily Bulletin, there is a hand reported (on page 4) where the auction starts:

Pass-1-1-1
1NT

And Rodwell's 1N advance is described as a "good heart raise". Does anyone know what the rest of the structure is?

It seems a bit strange to me that with 2 and 2 available for raises, along with a direct 2, that a 1NT advance is used for a raise.

Perhaps 1N is a transfer to 2, which is a cue-bid in this case; 2-> natural; 2->; 2 = weak raise. But, there again, that's a lot of raises.

One might also consider that the overcall was made on 4 KJT84 973 QT87, so maybe having a weak 3-card raise, a constructive 3-card raise, and a "good" 3-card raise available would be of some use. And, a natural 1N advance in the face of two bidding opponents might be something easily given up.
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  Posted 2009-March-18, 08:54

Rather interesting to me; I wonder if they are playing 2C/D as a natural NF here, since two suits have been introduced.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:06

edited.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:16

I bet you are exactly right about the transfers. The combination of being a passed hand when they open so light and that they overcall very light also probably combines to make a natural 1NT pretty useless.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 11:33

1NT as a good raise seems pretty much like a waste of bidding space to me, but ok.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 14:24

What would a 2 overcall have shown?
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Posted 2009-March-18, 15:29

Kind of funny.

We have all sorts of debates about fit non-jumps at fairly high levels, but Meckwell is even using 1NT, a one-level call, in this auction the cheapest call, as a fit-bid?

;)
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Posted 2009-March-18, 17:23

Some play that 1NT is a normal raise to 2 showing (or denying) a top heart honour.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 18:33

kenrexford, on Mar 18 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Kind of funny.

We have all sorts of debates about fit non-jumps at fairly high levels, but Meckwell is even using 1NT, a one-level call, in this auction the cheapest call, as a fit-bid?

;)

What do you think, is Meckwell giving up being able to bid diamonds (the only unbid suit) naturally?
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Posted 2009-March-18, 23:53

kenrexford, on Mar 18 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Kind of funny.

We have all sorts of debates about fit non-jumps at fairly high levels, but Meckwell is even using 1NT, a one-level call, in this auction the cheapest call, as a fit-bid?

:P

The cheapest call in this auction is pass. The cheapest bid in this auction is double, which may well be their way to show values with a balanced hand and less than 3 hearts.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 03:32

orlam, on Mar 19 2009, 07:53 AM, said:

The cheapest call in this auction is pass. The cheapest bid in this auction is double, which may well be their way to show values with a balanced hand and less than 3 hearts.
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