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KJT,J9xx,xx,Qxxx 3H or not ?

#1 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2009-March-18, 18:19

Scoring: MP


(1D)-------X--------(3D) preempt------???

partner is knowned to X agressively.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 01:17

yes
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Posted 2009-March-19, 02:02

What does agressively mean?
Is he agressive, if it comes to HCP or if it comes
to shape?

I would most likely bid 3H, but if I risk facing a
bal. hand , than I think pass is a sensible option.
Partner will have another option to speak, and he
will, if we have game.

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Posted 2009-March-19, 02:27

Even if dbling aggressively partner should have seem that we are red and they are white.
So I think I can take the risk of bidding 3♥.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 03:19

If I act at all, I double, showing two places to play.
I would rather play in 4C than 3H opposite Axxx Kxx x KJxxx
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Posted 2009-March-19, 05:10

3♥ for me. A bit pushy but you cannot afford to lose more time.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 05:21

I would pass.

Maybe it is right to bid at MP. I think we will often go down in our contract, but on the other hand they will often make 3♦. But sometimes nobody can make 9 tricks, and I will hope this is one of those times.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 09:18

In another thread we're told that xxx AKx xxx AQJx is a takeout double of 1♦. If partner has something like that, 3♥ won't be much fun.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-March-19, 09:53

I pass, it's just not quite enough.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:39

I pass, agree with Frances that double is the second choice.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:41

Pass, but I would double if one of my clubs was a spade.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:47

Pass.

I'll act if I had a stiff diamond (by doubling).
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:50

FrancesHinden, on Mar 19 2009, 02:19 AM, said:

If I act at all, I double, showing two places to play.
I would rather play in 4C than 3H opposite Axxx Kxx x KJxxx

I would too, but I think you will be playing in 3♠.

Anyway I would pass, change the ♥J to the ♥Q and I think I have a close decision and would double.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:52

This is quite minimum and holding 2♦ is not so good here as PD also often has two. All things considered, I pass and see if PD can reopen.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:57

It's a min, but it's all working points.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 13:13

whereagles, on Mar 19 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

It's a min, but it's all working points.

This is very true, and acting could be correct. I'd like 1 more working point or non ♦
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Posted 2009-March-19, 13:34

rogerclee, on Mar 19 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Mar 19 2009, 02:19 AM, said:

If I act at all, I double, showing two places to play.
I would rather play in 4C than 3H opposite Axxx Kxx x KJxxx

I would too, but I think you will be playing in 3♠.

I imagine Frances intends to convert 3♠ to 4♣, trusting her partner not to be 4=3=3=3.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-March-19, 13:51

Clear pass IMO. I don't have the goods for any action now.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 14:11

whereagles, on Mar 19 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

It's a min, but it's all working points.

Of course that would also be a true statement about xxx J9xx xx xxxx. So even hands with all working points need to exceed some minimum threshhold.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 14:27

jdonn, on Mar 19 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

whereagles, on Mar 19 2009, 01:57 PM, said:

It's a min, but it's all working points.

Of course that would also be a true statement about xxx J9xx xx xxxx. So even hands with all working points need to exceed some minimum threshhold.

No, because then the odds are pard has an 18+ hand and it's not all working points :)

Well, anyway, I like 3H , period ^^
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