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#1 User is offline   andy_h 

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Posted 2009-March-12, 08:29

Maybe this hand type has been discussed before, don't remember.

You are in 3rd seat as South at all vul and pick up
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Partner opens 1♠ and righty overcalls 2♦. Your bid.
If you decide to pass, any plans over partner's likely rebids?
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Posted 2009-March-12, 09:44

pass 2♦.

over X, I bid 3♣.
over 2♥, I pass.
over 2♠, I pass.
over 3♣, I bid 3♦, which should be a good raise.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 09:47

I'm doubling.

Passing could very well work, but if partner reopens with anything (except maybe 2♥), we have a heck of a rebid problem.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 09:53

I'll dbl, intending to treat my heart holding as if it were 4.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 10:04

dbsboy, on Mar 12 2009, 05:44 PM, said:

pass 2♦.

over X, I bid 3♣.
over 2♥, I pass.
over 2♠, I pass.
over 3♣, I bid 3♦, which should be a good raise.

Much like this.

I'd be very tempted to raise 2♠, with some partners.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 10:16

OleBerg, on Mar 12 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

I'd be very tempted to raise 2♠, with some partners.

I think you have to move over 2♠. Pard could easily have a 17.

Which is really the main reason why I like the initial double, since we express our values, and we aren't creeping around in a fog of uncertainty.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 14:06

dbsboy, on Mar 13 2009, 04:44 AM, said:

pass 2♦.

over X, I bid 3♣.
over 2♥, I pass.
over 2♠, I pass.
over 3♣, I bid 3♦, which should be a good raise.

Over every action except 3♣ you take the weakest action. This means that in the bidding partner never finds out you have two aces.

I think that you need to be much more optimistic than this.

I am moving over anything that partner bids if I passed on the first round.

I prefer double on the first round.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 18:07

Cascade, on Mar 12 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

Over every action except 3♣ you take the weakest action.

Facing a double, isn't 3NT normally played as Lebensohl? Hence dbsboy's 3♣ shows some values.
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Posted 2009-March-12, 20:07

pass 2♦.

over X, I bid 3♦.
over 2♥, I bid 3♦.
over 2♠, I pass.
over 3♣, I bid 3♦.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-March-12, 20:38

gnasher, on Mar 13 2009, 01:07 PM, said:

Cascade, on Mar 12 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

Over every action except 3♣ you take the weakest action.

Facing a double, isn't 3NT normally played as Lebensohl? Hence dbsboy's 3♣ shows some values.

I am not sure that Lebensohl is standard in this sort of auction.

It certainly could apply but that would require special partnership agreement.
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Posted 2009-March-13, 01:10

Double.

You just can't pass with two bullets.

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Posted 2009-March-13, 09:52

Good problem, I would double.
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Posted 2009-March-13, 19:05

X, unsure when 2N appears. Rest not hard.
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Posted 2009-March-13, 19:31

nickf, on Mar 13 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

Double.

You just can't pass with two bullets.

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