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Reopening Or Watching 50s add up...

Poll: Your Reopening Bid/Call? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Your Reopening Bid/Call?

  1. Pass (1 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  2. X (27 votes [90.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

  3. 1H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 1S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 1N (1 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  6. 2C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 2D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. I would have opened 1/2NT (1 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  11. Something Else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2009-March-10, 21:32

Nobody Vulnerable at IMPs you deal:

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1 - (1) - P - (P)
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Posted 2009-March-10, 21:50

routine double
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Posted 2009-March-10, 22:03

Extra values and reasonable shape - its hard to imagine how a double can work out badly.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 22:31

double. Wayne says it all.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 22:44

ok... WTP double I thought... right?

1 - (1) - P - P
X - (P) - P - (1)
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Posted 2009-March-10, 22:58

I would bid 1NT, in my experience hands like this (long minor) do better to declare than defend. To clarify, I'm bidding 1NT after I already doubled last round.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 02:26

double is obvious, 1 NT looks insane.

Rest editted due to Csabas sensible answer. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-March-11, 03:13

Codo, on Mar 11 2009, 10:26 AM, said:

double is obvious, 1 NT looks insane.

I would pass now, my partner shows 3-4 spades and 0-7 HCPS.

Playing in the US, where his 1 can be stronger, I try 2 now and hope that partner understands what I am doing.

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Posted 2009-March-11, 03:25

Codo, on Mar 11 2009, 09:26 AM, said:

double is obvious, 1 NT looks insane.

I would pass now, my partner shows 3-4 spades and 0-7 HCPS.

Playing in the US, where his 1 can be stronger, I try 2 now and hope that partner understands what I am doing.

1 was from RHO not Partner. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-March-11, 03:53

Aha, now I am awake, so partner has a penalty pass of 1 HEart.

I try 2 NT, wouldn't I bid 1 NT with the same hand and an ace less?
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Posted 2009-March-11, 04:11

I think pass is forcing so I show a good hand by passing and then bidding 2 after partner's double.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 04:49

If you play that pass now is forcing, pass and pass pard's double.

If you play that pass is non forcing (or you're not sure what you play), bid 1NT.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 04:51

Right, I must pass partner's double of course. I need some coffee, too.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 09:06

double, would also double with 2263.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 09:38

Very good problem, although of course the double last round was automatic.

For me pass is not forcing. I've seen several hands lately where this has hurt me so perhaps it is better to play this as forcing. It will cost sometimes when partner is weak with long hearts, but maybe more often it will be very useful to determine whether we should defend or not.

If pass is indeed forcing then this is a clear pass I think.

If pass is not forcing then we have a problem. I am not as convinced as Roger that we shouldn't be defending, we have 5 tricks! Partner doesn't need much for 1SX to be a good score. On the other hand, partner will almost always pass my double and it does sound like the opponents have landed in some kind of fit: partner is unlikely to have 4 spades (though it is possible.)

If I do pass then partner will likely double with 3 spades and values, that would be a feast.

If I bid 1NT partner will probably expect more HCP but we probably have spades and hearts well stopped and diamonds are likely to bring in tricks. If partner raises us to 3NT then I expect good play. On the other hand, if partner is very weak (the kind of hand where 1S makes) then 1NT might not make and 2D could be a lot safer.

A direct 2D now does show extras (with a minimum and long diamonds we could have bd 2D last round) but it is a bit sick to rebid this suit, and I also think that it also suggests a weaker spade holding.

So I will also bid 1NT but I am not happy about it.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 10:52

I think that after 1 our only options are pass and double, both have merit, I'd go with double again.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 12:00

er, didn't notice the followup by the OP

The first action is obviously double. The second action is much harder; I think I'd double again.

This post has been edited by Apollo81: 2009-March-11, 12:02

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Posted 2009-March-11, 20:08

OK... So this part of the problem was obviously much harder... The full deal:

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I bid 3 (A very bad bid now that I think about it... which was not so much fun to play...
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Posted 2009-March-11, 21:30

Partner will bid 2H if we bid 1NT, and I think partner should pass if we double 1S. Agree?
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Posted 2009-March-11, 22:48

gwnn, on Mar 11 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

Codo, on Mar 11 2009, 10:26 AM, said:

double is obvious, 1 NT looks insane.

I would pass now, my partner shows 3-4 spades and 0-7 HCPS.

Playing in the US, where his 1 can be stronger, I try 2 now and hope that partner understands what I am doing.

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