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Does the possibility of a 2-6 diamond split affect the proper play in hearts?

#1 User is offline   Mbodell 

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Posted 2009-March-07, 02:16

Scoring: MP

P - P - 1 - P
1 - P - 4 AP


7 Q K 3
6 J Q A
2 6 Q A
2 A 4 8
8 5 K 2
T 5 ?

Is the possibility that W has lead from a doubleton diamond enough to shift the probabilities from a heart drop (K) to a heart finesse (3)?
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Posted 2009-March-07, 03:39

Disagree with this line, I gave up an endplay against east (pitch a spade on the T) for no reason.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 03:57

rogerclee, on Mar 7 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

Disagree with this line, I gave up an endplay against east (pitch a spade on the T) for no reason.

I could be wrong, but I don't see why you should do that.
- If 's are 2-2 then East will return a and you are down if K is off
- If 's are 3-1 then East will have to return a , but you have no entry to your hand anymore to finesse .
...And maybe opps lead 3th-5th and the lead was 3rd best?
 
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Posted 2009-March-07, 10:12

I rise with the King.

If it brings down the jack, I am home. If not, I eliminate the minors (Clubs first), and hope that I can endplay East on the J to lead away from the K.

Without a possible endplay, it is more difficult, but surely some number-Crunchers can figure it out.
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Posted 2009-March-07, 10:18

kgr, on Mar 7 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Mar 7 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

Disagree with this line, I gave up an endplay against east (pitch a spade on the T) for no reason.

I could be wrong, but I don't see why you should do that.
- If 's are 2-2 then East will return a and you are down if K is off
- If 's are 3-1 then East will have to return a , but you have no entry to your hand anymore to finesse .
...And maybe opps lead 3th-5th and the lead was 3rd best?
 

Or put in a slightly different way:

If the King of spades is off-side, you one down for certain.
If the King of spades is onside, they lead a non-heart (A spade seems obvious), and you can never be better off than your own guess.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.

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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.


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