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#1 User is offline   Ai Hao 

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Posted 2009-March-05, 12:41

Playing XYZ and 2/1, what is 3 in below bidding?

--------------Pass-pass
1-pass-1-pass
1-pass-2-pass
2-pass-2-pass
3

By agreement, 2 would be replaced by 2 with 3 card and max hand
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Posted 2009-March-05, 12:47

Honestly, that sequence makes no real since. Opener has denied a max with 3, so that only hand that remotely makes sense is a min with 3...which should probably pass 2. Maybe a distributional min, like 4=3=5=1 or 4=3=6=0 maybe?
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Posted 2009-March-05, 12:48

You can define these "blame transfers" any way you want to, but I agree thats its probably a shapely minimum.
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Posted 2009-March-05, 12:48

What does your partnership bid with a 4351 minimum?

If the rebid is 1, then 3 should be this. It would not be correct to think that a 4351 minimum should pass 2, game can still be easily on, which responder is now very well placed to judge. The chance that we go down in 3 is very low, anyway.

If your partnership raises to 2 on this kind of shape then this should be a 4252 maximum, willing to go to game but offering 4, and now responder is very well placed to judge whether to bid 3N or 4.
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Posted 2009-March-05, 13:00

rogerclee, on Mar 5 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

What does your partnership bid with a 4351 minimum?

If the rebid is 1, then 3 should be this. It would not be correct to think that a 4351 minimum should pass 2, game can still be easily on, which responder is now very well placed to judge. The chance that we go down in 3 is very low, anyway.

If your partnership raises to 2 on this kind of shape then this should be a 4252 maximum, willing to go to game but offering 4, and now responder is very well placed to judge whether to bid 3N or 4.

with 4351, we raise 2 directly.

At the time I translated this 3 as 2 honour card and max and went to 3nt, but it was wrong.

PS, we are not regular partners and we don't play walsh style.
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Posted 2009-March-05, 13:47

Actually, my interpretation would be the same as yours.

4-2-6(5)-1 with no club stopper.

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