[jdonn]

rogerclee, on Mar 4 2009, 05:20 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

xx1943, on Mar 4 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM, said:

I can see myself overcalling 1♠ or 3♠ with this, but not 2♠.
A sneaky pass is, of course, also a possibility.

and the bidding goes 2NT pass 3NT and partner doesn't find the spade lead.
Or do you have X as conventional for spades??

No, I play a double to ask partner to lead his shorter major. I guess he'll hit the right one anytime he isn't void in spades......

Really, I thought it was universal that this asks for a diamond lead in this kind of auction (opener's minor).

I don't like it to ask for any particular lead, it just want it to say I think they are down. But a short suit is often a good lead in that case since any long suit I have would have good solidity.

[rogerclee]

jdonn, on Mar 4 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

I don't like it to ask for any particular lead, it just want it to say I think they are down. But a short suit is often a good lead in that case since any long suit I have would have good solidity.

I couldn't bid over 1♦, but I think 3NT is going down. How could I want anything except a diamond?

[jdonn]

Oops I had the auction wrong, I thought diamonds were on my left. Ok you win and I suck.

[OleBerg]

rogerclee, on Mar 5 2009, 12:20 AM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

xx1943, on Mar 4 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM, said:

I can see myself overcalling 1♠ or 3♠ with this, but not 2♠.
A sneaky pass is, of course, also a possibility.

and the bidding goes 2NT pass 3NT and partner doesn't find the spade lead.
Or do you have X as conventional for spades??

No, I play a double to ask partner to lead his shorter major. I guess he'll hit the right one anytime he isn't void in spades......

Really, I thought it was universal that this asks for a diamond lead in this kind of auction (opener's minor).

Of course you have to be carefull with unknown partners, but in a regular partnership, it makes much sense to play like jdonn, agreeing the double to mean something like: "Please lead my suit, do not lead away from your tenaces".

In this sequence the opponents are bound to have a lot of minor-cards, so reserving the double for hands that can run diamonds seems a little awkward.

[xx1943]

The whole discussion shows, that there are alot of different possible and reasonable meanings of the 3NT double. There is no no right or wrong imho.

So it is necessary for every partnership to discuss this issue.
The same difference is after both defenders bid a different suit then the question is weather the double says:
1) Play my suit or 2) Play your suit.

Al

[skjaeran]

rogerclee, on Mar 4 2009, 11:20 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

xx1943, on Mar 4 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM, said:

I can see myself overcalling 1♠ or 3♠ with this, but not 2♠.
A sneaky pass is, of course, also a possibility.

and the bidding goes 2NT pass 3NT and partner doesn't find the spade lead.
Or do you have X as conventional for spades??

No, I play a double to ask partner to lead his shorter major. I guess he'll hit the right one anytime he isn't void in spades......

Really, I thought it was universal that this asks for a diamond lead in this kind of auction (opener's minor).

Sure it does - I was joking.
Double for shorter major is on over 1NT-3NT or equivalent.