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#1 User is offline   ewj 

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Posted 2009-March-02, 13:22

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LHO opens 1S showing 6 diamonds or 54 in the minors 9-15...partner passes and RHO bids 3D, your go.

You agreed that over 1S, X was take out of diamonds and 2D was Michaels.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 13:26

Double. I assume 3♦ did not show values.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 13:28

3D was indeed preemptive.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 13:31

So this is basically like a 1♦-3♦ preempt sequence. would we act there?, vulnerable I think I am passing.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 19:19

Fluffy, on Mar 2 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

So this is basically like a 1♦-3♦ preempt sequence. would we act there?, vulnerable I think I am passing.

There is a big difference, since partner didn't have a 1M overcall available.

I would double. My second choice is actually 4♦, not pass. Ugh!
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Posted 2009-March-03, 02:45

It looks like an overbid, but I bid 4♦. Double will usually get us to four of a major anyway, but not always to the right one.

If you double and partner bids a major, are you going to pass? Partner will nearly always have four of them; give him a scattering of values as well and game looks quite good.

Likewise, if you double and hear 4♣, it would be unkind to leave him there. It's not clear whether you should bid 4♦ or 4♥, but whichever you choose he's not going to play you for 5-5 in the majors.

Double might gain if partner decided to pass it, with a 3334 shape and good diamonds. I don't think that very likely, though.
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Posted 2009-March-03, 03:02

FWIW if you double and partner bids three of a major, I think it's quite clear to pass. Your lack of values and doubleton diamond more than diminish the five card support.

I have no real problem with 4♦ but feel it should be said that you have to remember hands like this the next time your partner comes in at a high level under pressure, and you are contemplating slam tries...
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Posted 2009-March-03, 05:19

The point of doubling is surely to pass 3M. If I were about to raise that, it would be clear to bid 4♦ in the first place.
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Posted 2009-March-03, 07:15

Hmm tough. I want to act so pass is out of the picture for me. Now to X or to bid 4D. My first instinct was to double but thinking about it more I think 4D will work out better. Like Josh says, provided that partner doesn't get too excited and go about his way of making a slam try as I wouldn't particularly enjoy going 1 off in 5M.
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