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To splinter or not to splinter

#1 User is offline   jdaming 

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Posted 2009-February-22, 12:18



Bidding goes:
P - P- 1♥ - P
1♠ -P - ???

What do you do?
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Posted 2009-February-22, 18:37

OH BTW scoring is MP and nobody has advice or an opinon? The 3 of you that saw the deal excluded.
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Posted 2009-February-22, 18:51

I don't know what your last post means but I would splinter. Not perfect with a singleton king, but 4♠ isn't exactly more descriptive anyway so it's the best I've got.
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Posted 2009-February-22, 19:15

nonexpert 4s.....if pard prefers 4c npp.
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Posted 2009-February-22, 19:50

I cant imagine a passed hand that will now give us 6 - 4♠
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Posted 2009-February-22, 20:25

jillybean2, on Feb 22 2009, 08:50 PM, said:

I cant imagine a passed hand that will now give us 6 - 4♠

i wouldn't open KQxxx Kx xxx xxx, for instance, or Kxxxx x Kxx Axxx or some such...
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Posted 2009-February-23, 00:39

I'm down for 4♠. It is MP, 6♠ is unlikely, telling the opponents about our stiff club may cost a trick, and partner is unlikely to evaluate his hand right even if we do splinter.
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Posted 2009-February-23, 03:26

I like 4♠, partner will know that his heart holding must be very good to move on.
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Posted 2009-February-23, 05:01

4 ♣, but 4 ♠ is fine too.
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Posted 2009-February-23, 17:25

Partner held K983 6 542 A9863... Should he do something over 4♣ or signoff in 4♠?
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Posted 2009-February-23, 17:28

Sing off quickly, we have too few trumps for anything to work.
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Posted 2009-February-23, 18:19

mtvesuvius, on Feb 24 2009, 12:25 PM, said:

Partner held K983 6 542 A9863... Should he do something over 4♣ or signoff in 4♠?

Its marginal.

I expect my partner to do something with a decent minimum with nothing wasted.

Here though I would rather have the ♦ A in which case I would definitely do something. Although compensating a little for that we do have a heart shortage which maybe of benefit.

Also it would be much better if we had a fifth trump.

I think 4♠ is enough.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 09:42

The only reasonable choices are 4♣ and 4♠ since we have a game-forcing strength hand. I prefer 4♣ because it leaves partner room to try for slam at the 4-level.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 09:43

mtvesuvius, on Feb 23 2009, 07:25 PM, said:

Partner held K983 6 542 A9863... Should he do something over 4♣ or signoff in 4♠?

I'd cue 4♥ with this.
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Posted 2009-February-24, 09:54

Hi,

The answer is most likely yes, since for slam to be reasonable
you prefer to have partners values to be outside of clubs.

Given that 4C also gives partner some room to cue bid, I would
say the bid is fine, although I am certain I would bid the lazy 4S.

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Posted 2009-February-24, 09:56

mtvesuvius, on Feb 23 2009, 06:25 PM, said:

Partner held K983 6 542 A9863... Should he do something over 4♣ or signoff in 4♠?

Sign of.

Move the Ace of clubs to another suit, and we can start
talking, even than the hand is min. for the bidding, so I
would even than simply sign of.

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