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#1 User is offline   Apollo81 

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Posted 2009-February-11, 12:10

w/w, BAM

♠A
♥KTx
♦xxxx
♣AQJxx

p-(2♠)-Dbl-(3♦)*
Dbl-(3♠)-all pass

* lead-directing

lead?
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Posted 2009-February-12, 03:30

Ace of spade make a better guess next trick.
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Posted 2009-February-13, 10:11

no one else wants to try this one?
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Posted 2009-February-13, 10:40

Apollo81, on Feb 13 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

no one else wants to try this one?

Dude! Give people some time to think :D

I think I'm leading a round suit. Small heart.

BTW where the heck are you finding all these BAMs?
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Posted 2009-February-13, 13:30

What was the double of 3♦? Maybe I should lead a diamond because partner asked me to?

If double of 3♦ was something else (takeout for round suits, general values) maybe I should have competed to 4♣ here.
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Posted 2009-February-13, 15:00

awm, on Feb 13 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

What was the double of 3♦? Maybe I should lead a diamond because partner asked me to?

If double of 3♦ was something else (takeout for round suits, general values) maybe I should have competed to 4♣ here.

Woah I didn't even notice p's double. Yeah why am I not just leading a diamond here?
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Posted 2009-February-13, 15:25

ok raise your hand if your partnership has discussed a meaning for a double of the opponents lead directing bid

I just took partner's double as penalty

(i did consider a diamond lead on this hand)
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Posted 2009-February-13, 15:26

kfay, on Feb 13 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

BTW where the heck are you finding all these BAMs?

the local sectionals sometimes have BAMs in flight A/X instead of swisses
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Posted 2009-February-13, 19:16

Apollo81, on Feb 13 2009, 05:11 PM, said:

no one else wants to try this one?

I couldn't think of anything to add to what Codo said. Still can't, in fact.

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ok raise your hand if your partnership has discussed a meaning for a double of the opponents lead directing bid

I have a general agreement in every partnership that after we make a takeout double, a subsequent double of any suit implied by the first double is for penalties. In this case partner said he had a hand that would have bid 3♦.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-February-17, 10:05

Scoring: BAM


You can see that a heart lead or switch (from W) will let declarer make 4. A diamond or ♣A lead (or switch) will let declarer make 3. If West leads ♣Q or ♣J, East may not think to overtake, and declarer will also make 3. West has to find the magic low club lead, and then East has to switch to hearts.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 11:01

what did they do at the other table?

I think I would had led a simple diamond.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 11:08

I thought for a while about which red suit to lead, and even joked with my LHO that I should do what she asked. Finally I led a ♥.

My teammates (not surprisingly) got to 4♠ (heart led), so my lead was irrelevant.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 11:20

I didn't answer because I was going to say I would bid 4♦ over 3♠, but I didn't post it and now no one will believe me. :(
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Posted 2009-February-17, 11:31

jdonn, on Feb 17 2009, 01:20 PM, said:

I didn't answer because I was going to say I would bid 4♦ over 3♠, but I didn't post it and now no one will believe me. :(

I'm sure opener will just bid 4♠ over this and you have the same leading decision -- but now you're setting it if you make the normal ♦ lead.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 11:41

Apollo81, on Feb 17 2009, 12:31 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 17 2009, 01:20 PM, said:

I didn't answer because I was going to say I would bid 4♦ over 3♠, but I didn't post it and now no one will believe me. :(

I'm sure opener will just bid 4♠ over this and you have the same leading decision -- but now you're setting it if you make the normal ♦ lead.

He didn't think he was making 4♠ since he didn't actually bid it, but he will save over my 4 of a minor contract holding Qx in that suit?
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Posted 2009-February-17, 12:09

jdonn, on Feb 17 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

Apollo81, on Feb 17 2009, 12:31 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 17 2009, 01:20 PM, said:

I didn't answer because I was going to say I would bid 4♦ over 3♠, but I didn't post it and now no one will believe me. :(

I'm sure opener will just bid 4♠ over this and you have the same leading decision -- but now you're setting it if you make the normal ♦ lead.

He didn't think he was making 4♠ since he didn't actually bid it, but he will save over my 4 of a minor contract holding Qx in that suit?

let's agree that if he can open 2♠ on that hand then he's capable of any bid at that point =)
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