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You're playing MPs and open 1♥ in 1st on:
♠AQ10
♥KQJ10652
♦K92
♣-
Opps. are silent; prd. responds 1♠.
So: 1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)-?
I'd like to hear some ideas before I move to the next round of bidding...
Thanks all.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 11:31
3♦ is probably the 'correct' bid, as it is forcing (?) and will let you bid 4♥ in a next round having shown the strength of your hand.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 11:33
I'll try 4h...
I'll try not to jump shift into a 3 card d suit.
I'll try not to jump shift into a 3 card d suit.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 11:35
I'll rebid 3♥, a straight down the middle kind of bid. I wish I had the 3♥ bid as showing 3-6-x-x, but it's the best I can do.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 11:53
3D planning 4H next to show self-sufficient hearts.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 11:57
3♦, I would bid 4♥ with one less honor in my hand.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 12:07
4h (making 6 - partner turning up with 2 of 3 between K spades, heart A and diamond A)
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Posted 2009-February-03, 13:17
4♥, I don't think this is an under (or over) bid
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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:02
4♥ is a big underbid, we just need 2 keycards in partner's hand for 6 and 3 for 7.
I like 3♦, 2NT is always an option if partner is used of this.
I like 3♦, 2NT is always an option if partner is used of this.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:34
OK, so we've got roughly a split so far between 3♦ and some number of ♥.
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
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Posted 2009-February-03, 14:47
fachiru, on Feb 3 2009, 03:34 PM, said:
OK, so we've got roughly a split so far between 3♦ and some number of ♥.
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
Of course I'm not done bidding, 3♦ was clearly bid with the intention of bidding hearts again on the next round.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 15:27
After the auction:
1♥-P-1♠-P-
3♦-P-3NT-P-
?
We need some sort of rules as to what means what.
Normally, I default to flag bidding if two suits are in focus. Were spades and hearts the only suits in focus, then 4♣(hearts) and 4♦(spades) would be stronger bids than 4♥ and 4♠.
Here, however, three suits are in focus. In that event, it seems good to use the idea, called something, where 4♣ is a weak relay and other calls are stronger. Hence, 4♦ would be a strong diamond rebid, 4♥ a strong heart rebid, and 4♠ a strong spade raise. "Strong" being in context. With a weaker holding, 4♣ would relay 4♦, after which, presumably, 4♥ would be weaker with hearts, 4♠ weaker with spades, and 5♦ weaker with diamonds.
The problem with this is that a STRICT relay does not solve Opener's problem. Hence, I would expect 4♣ to be best used as a weak semi-relay, with Responder expected to pick between diamonds and hearts as if Opener had made a weak 4♦ call, either completing the relay (4♦) with contextual diamond preference, or bidding 4♥ with contextual heart preference.
As an aside, perhaps in this sequence there might be some merit to showing a "strong" holding when Opener has the spade fragment. Thus, 4♥ directly would imply a very strong playing hand with three spades, whereas 4♣ and correcting 4♦ to 4♥, if necessary, is a heart-only focus without a spade fragment.
1♥-P-1♠-P-
3♦-P-3NT-P-
?
We need some sort of rules as to what means what.
Normally, I default to flag bidding if two suits are in focus. Were spades and hearts the only suits in focus, then 4♣(hearts) and 4♦(spades) would be stronger bids than 4♥ and 4♠.
Here, however, three suits are in focus. In that event, it seems good to use the idea, called something, where 4♣ is a weak relay and other calls are stronger. Hence, 4♦ would be a strong diamond rebid, 4♥ a strong heart rebid, and 4♠ a strong spade raise. "Strong" being in context. With a weaker holding, 4♣ would relay 4♦, after which, presumably, 4♥ would be weaker with hearts, 4♠ weaker with spades, and 5♦ weaker with diamonds.
The problem with this is that a STRICT relay does not solve Opener's problem. Hence, I would expect 4♣ to be best used as a weak semi-relay, with Responder expected to pick between diamonds and hearts as if Opener had made a weak 4♦ call, either completing the relay (4♦) with contextual diamond preference, or bidding 4♥ with contextual heart preference.
As an aside, perhaps in this sequence there might be some merit to showing a "strong" holding when Opener has the spade fragment. Thus, 4♥ directly would imply a very strong playing hand with three spades, whereas 4♣ and correcting 4♦ to 4♥, if necessary, is a heart-only focus without a spade fragment.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 16:53
fachiru, on Feb 3 2009, 03:34 PM, said:
OK, so we've got roughly a split so far between 3♦ and some number of ♥.
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
It would take Death to shut me up here... I agree with 3♦, and now I bid 3♥.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 16:54
fachiru, on Feb 3 2009, 03:34 PM, said:
OK, so we've got roughly a split so far between 3♦ and some number of ♥.
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
At the table, as much as I dislike fake reverses, I bid 3♦, as I wanted to force to at least game on that powerful hand with excellent ♠ support.
We move to the 2nd bidding round now; I'm afraid I'll force 3♦ on you.
3nt from prd. now.
To recap, we've had:
1♥-(p)-1♠-(p)
3♦-(p)-3nt-(p) to you now.
Are you done bidding? (MP scoring again)
It would take Death to shut me up here... I agree with 3♦, and now I bid 4♥.
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
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