[Ai Hao]

In 2/1, what do you use in following biddings:

1x-1y-3x?
1x-1nt-3x?

Forcing game, forcing one round or just invitation?

Any difference between major and minor opening?

[TylerE]

Both are nearly forcing, but neither actually forcing. Only forcing bid on these sequences is a jump shift, but the jump rebid shows a good hand, and should only be passed with a minimum/sub-minimum and no fit.

[dicklont]

Inviting, non forcing.

The jump rebid shows NT values (15)16/17 with a good sixcard.

Something like Ax Kxx AQJxxx Kx

[peachy]

Strongly invitational (as opposed to a plain or a mild invite). Responder can Pass the invite but with an ace he should go on even if the hand overall is nothing more than a minimum response. Any bid responder makes below game after the jump, is forcing to game.

[mtvesuvius]

Strongly suggesting game, but NF. I have played 1m - 1x - 3m as asking for 1 1/2 stoppers total outside of my minor, if Responder had this he would bid 3NT or show some other important piece of information. Anyway, this is NF Invitational.

[qwery_hi]

What is our rebid on something like

Ax Kxx KQJTxx AQ when partner responds 1♠ after we open 1♦.

[mtvesuvius]

qwery_hi, on Jan 27 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

What is our rebid on something like

Ax Kxx KQJTxx AQ when partner responds 1♠ after we open 1♦.

We don't have this problem because this is a 2NT opener...

[jtfanclub]

qwery_hi, on Jan 27 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

What is our rebid on something like

Ax Kxx KQJTxx AQ when partner responds 1♠ after we open 1♦.

Normally, my call would be 2NT (18-19 balanced or short spades). In this case, the hand is so unbelievably strong that I'd just bid 3NT if I hadn't opened it 2NT to start with.

[Fluffy]

Dicklont the hand you posted is too strong for 3♦, it would be correct without ♦Q.

With hands too strong to rebid 3x, you can reverse or bid 2NT, the one you find more appopiate at the moment.

[jdonn]

Fluffy, on Jan 27 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Dicklont the hand you posted is too strong for 3♦, it would be correct without ♦Q.

Totally disagree. It's not too strong, and would be a 2♦ rebid or 1NT opener without the queen of diamonds.

[TylerE]

jdawn?? Are you seeing the same 19 highs I am?

[JLOL]

TylerE, on Jan 27 2009, 10:26 PM, said:

jdawn?? Are you seeing the same 19 highs I am?

LOL

[orlam]

jdonn, on Jan 27 2009, 09:45 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 27 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Dicklont the hand you posted is too strong for 3♦, it would be correct without ♦Q.

Totally disagree. It's not too strong, and would be a 2♦ rebid or 1NT opener without the queen of diamonds.

Are you saying you would bid 1D-1x-2D with both xx Kxx AJTxxx Kx and Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx (barring an excentric 1N opening)?

[jdonn]

orlam, on Jan 28 2009, 01:33 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 27 2009, 09:45 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 27 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Dicklont the hand you posted is too strong for 3♦, it would be correct without ♦Q.

Totally disagree. It's not too strong, and would be a 2♦ rebid or 1NT opener without the queen of diamonds.

Are you saying you would bid 1D-1x-2D with both xx Kxx AJTxxx Kx and Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx (barring an excentric 1N opening)?

I didn't say anything about the first hand, and you conveniently threw the ten of diamonds into both hands, and if I would open 1NT then what I would do if I opened 1♦ doesn't particularly matter. So no, I'm not saying that.

Are you saying you think Ax Kxx AQJxxx Kx is too good for 1♦-1x-3♦?

[orlam]

jdonn, on Jan 28 2009, 02:14 AM, said:

orlam, on Jan 28 2009, 01:33 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 27 2009, 09:45 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 27 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Dicklont the hand you posted is too strong for 3♦, it would be correct without ♦Q.

Totally disagree. It's not too strong, and would be a 2♦ rebid or 1NT opener without the queen of diamonds.

Are you saying you would bid 1D-1x-2D with both xx Kxx AJTxxx Kx and Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx (barring an excentric 1N opening)?

I didn't say anything about the first hand, and you conveniently threw the ten of diamonds into both hands, and if I would open 1NT then what I would do if I opened 1♦ doesn't particularly matter. So no, I'm not saying that.

Are you saying you think Ax Kxx AQJxxx Kx is too good for 1♦-1x-3♦?

No this looks like a typical maximum to me, and Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx like a typical minimum. I feel uncomfortable opening 1N with 6-card minors, and I feel very uncomfortable having a range where you can take away and ace and make the same 1D 1x 2D auction up to my rebid.
(I assume you would also open xx Kxx AJTxxx Kx with 1D?)

[jdonn]

The hand I was talking about was Ax Kxx AJxxxx Kx. You keep throwing the ten of diamonds in, it makes a big difference!

I would open the hand you gave that's an ace lighter. Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx I would open 1NT, largely to avoid the rebid problem since it seems in between 2 and 3. But if you force 1♦ on me then I rebid 2.

[mtvesuvius]

jdonn, on Jan 28 2009, 03:03 AM, said:

The hand I was talking about was Ax Kxx AJxxxx Kx. You keep throwing the ten of diamonds in, it makes a big difference!

I would open the hand you gave that's an ace lighter. Ax Kxx AJTxxx Kx I would open 1NT, largely to avoid the rebid problem since it seems in between 2 and 3. But if you force 1♦ on me then I rebid 2.

Both of your examples are easy 1NT openers imo, however if a 1NT opening is barred, I would rebid 2♦.

[stegenborg]

qwery_hi, on Jan 27 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

What is our rebid on something like

Ax Kxx KQJTxx AQ when partner responds 1♠ after we open 1♦.

I bid 3NT to show a strong single suited hand with the two last suits stopped.
I think this is the standard way to use this bid, but it does not pop up that often.

Kristian

[Ai Hao]

The actual hand is:

Scoring: MP

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1d(x)1s-3d?

Is it good for the jump rebid?