[kfay]

Scoring: Chicago

P-(1♠)-?

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[cherdano]

Let me see. I have 4 tricks if we play anything. I have 4 tricks plus a ruff or two if we are defending against spades.

[rogerclee]

uhhh pass

[Cascade]

cherdano, on Jan 5 2009, 05:13 PM, said:

Let me see. I have 4 tricks if we play anything. I have 4 tricks plus a ruff or two if we are defending against spades.

The opponents are unlikely to play spades.

I bid 1NT passing rarely works with 17 hcp.

[jdonn]

I pass, seems normal to me.

[Edmunte1]

Easy pass for me

[Fluffy]

1NT is great to find a partscore in 2m, but sometimes partner doesn't have a suit.

I think pass is the normal bid, only thing you bury is a 4♥ game I think.

[Hanoi5]

1NT.

[effervesce]

The point of passing is? If partner doubles, surely you arent sitting for pen with those crap pips - would you bid 3NT? Partner wouldnt expect a 17 count to have a hand that would pass yet not pass a reopening X for pen.

[rogerclee]

effervesce, on Jan 5 2009, 05:23 AM, said:

The point of passing is? If partner doubles, surely you arent sitting for pen with those crap pips - would you bid 3NT? Partner wouldnt expect a 17 count to have a hand that would pass yet not pass a reopening X for pen.

LOL

[effervesce]

rogerclee, on Jan 5 2009, 07:51 AM, said:

effervesce, on Jan 5 2009, 05:23 AM, said:

The point of passing is? If partner doubles, surely you arent sitting for pen with those crap pips - would you bid 3NT? Partner wouldnt expect a 17 count to have a hand that would pass yet not pass a reopening X for pen.

LOL

Geez, rlol, if ur gonna comment at least explain why. If partner reopens with an X, aren't you worried about missing a possible slam?

If you pass and partner reopens with a X, how many do you expect them to go down? 3? Then 'only' having game is but a small loss. The problem is, how often if they go down 3 or 4 will you have missed a slam ? And how often will they only go down 1 or 2? True, partner is a passed hand, but it's not impossible. Partner, having passed already though, will find it hard pressed to reopen with a X on alot of hands with some points.

Unless your point is that we're unlikely to make game if partner reopens with a X and doesn't have 4 hearts. Or suggesting that 1♠ all pass is the most likely place to play, and better than us playing the hand.

[Viren169]

Pass

- only good things can happen from now on!
- if pd dbls I will be interested in a slam

General principle (especially at money bridge) with the majority cards (however small) in the opps suit best to pass seems to have served me well over the years.

[nige1]

kfay, on Jan 4 2009, 11:04 PM, said:

Scoring: Chicago

P-(1♠)-?

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IMO 1N = 10, _P = 8, _X = 5, LOL = 0.

[mcphee]

If pard dble you will be interested in slam? Lets raise the stakes when you play against me! Sounds like when you have about 11 HCP and partner opens 1NT you make slam tries, a sound way to turn plus to minus. While I do not suggest slam is not possible it is not likely at all. Lets simply try and reach game.

I would not be happy bidding 1NT with this hand but I will risk it. There are days when partners then transfer to H.

[ArtK78]

1NT. Bid your hand. Certainly if you had one less spade and one more club you would bid 1NT. The additional spade adds some defense, but do you really want to defend 1♠?

[mtvesuvius]

effervesce, on Jan 5 2009, 10:02 PM, said:

Geez, rlol, if ur gonna comment at least explain why. If partner reopens with an X, aren't you worried about missing a possible slam?

LOL

(Edit: MBTs are not the place to bid pushy slams! or ones on 5 finesses...)

[skjaeran]

Fluffy, on Jan 5 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

1NT is great to find a partscore in 2m, but sometimes partner doesn't have a suit.

Huh, do you really play 2m as natural over a 1NT overcall?? System on is standard where I play.

I don't expect to defend 1♠ if I pass, so I prefer to overcall 1NT, to be able to reach game when that's right.

[Fluffy]

skaeran, on Jan 6 2009, 07:54 PM, said:

Huh, do you really play 2m as natural over a 1NT overcall?? System on is standard where I play.

yes, I keep forgetting it is not standard, the main reason is that we want the opener to be on lead.

[whereagles]

gonzalo, fix avatar pls

[Fluffy]

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