[H_KARLUK]

Scoring: MP

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1♣  3♥  D  RD
3♠   4♥  P   P
?

3♥8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ suit
D promises 4♠ and 7+ HCP
RD promises 2+♥ and 10+ HCP

[barmar]

I pass. Maybe it's timid, but I think I've already described a good hand in support of ♠, since I could have passed on the previous round, so it was up to partner. There's a good chance suits are not breaking well.

[whereagles]

I got some extra shape, but the hand is otherwise a bit junky. This is harder than it seems... I think I bid.

[Fluffy]

I play double is game forcing, but I would guess the standard is that it shows 10+, showing 7+ looks really unplayable.

My trust on opponent's redouble after a preempt is 0%.

I can barely understand why we didn't bid 4♠ previous round even if partner can be wrong, we have a 6-4.

If I am to be consequent with the fact that partner can be weak, and that I made a dubious decision previous round, I would be consistent with it and pass. But I would had bid 4♠ the round before.

[Viren169]

Hi,

I'm in the bidder's camp... 4S for me.

ps I would have bid 4S on the previous round!

BR
Viren

[rogerclee]

LOL at not bidding 4s the previous round

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL at not bidding it now

[nige1]

H_KARLUK, on Jan 3 2009, 04:41 PM, said:

[ONEHAND=West,N/S,MP,AJ76,3,AJ,Q98642]
1♣  3♥  D  RD
3♠   4♥  P   P
?
3♥8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ suit
D promises 4♠ and 7+ HCP
RD promises 2+♥ and 10+ HCP

IMO 4♠ = 10, _P = 6.

[jdonn]

What are these answers? How could someone not bid 4♠ last round?? And then they are given another chance and still don't bid it! Each time someone passes here, a kitten dies somewhere.

[dake50]

Partner added to his 7-10 4xS that he has not 2xDT(no X) and little confidence in offense 4S wins(not bid 4S). I, too have little confidence in any action being clear. Pass.

[andy_h]

agree with clee

[FrancesHinden]

jdonn, on Jan 4 2009, 02:23 AM, said:

What are these answers? How could someone not bid 4♠ last round?? And then they are given another chance and still don't bid it! Each time someone passes here, a kitten dies somewhere.

Don't forget we're playing in a game where a 3H overcall vul against not shows exactly 8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ card suit. This will help in the play, because if we need to find the queen of diamonds (for example), we'll know that LHO can't have, say,

x
AKQxxxx
Qxx
xx

or indeed

x
AJ109xxxx
xx
Jx

[peachy]

Difficult to rate bids at this point when my 3S bid the round before was wrong.

[Fluffy]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 4 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

Don't forget we're playing in a game where a 3H overcall vul against not shows exactly 8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ card suit.  This will help in the play, because if we need to find the queen of diamonds (for example), we'll know that LHO can't have, say,

JLOL said:

LOL

LOL

[jdonn]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 4 2009, 12:04 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 4 2009, 02:23 AM, said:

What are these answers? How could someone not bid 4♠ last round?? And then they are given another chance and still don't bid it! Each time someone passes here, a kitten dies somewhere.

Don't forget we're playing in a game where a 3H overcall vul against not shows exactly 8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ card suit. This will help in the play, because if we need to find the queen of diamonds (for example), we'll know that LHO can't have, say,

x
AKQxxxx
Qxx
xx

or indeed

x
AJ109xxxx
xx
Jx

As much as I don't mind having the support, I think the explanations of all the other players' bids (especially partner and rho) are somewhat irrelevant. 10+ for the redouble on the right? Whatever he says, I don't believe him. This problem really has no need for deep thought, partner showed 4 spades and the values to be bidding on the 3 level, it's trivial to bid game given that with this much shape.

[FrancesHinden]

Sarcasm (particularly English sarcasm) never works online. I should stop trying it.

[H_KARLUK]

Scoring: MP

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1♣  3♥  D  RD
3♠   4♥  P   P
4♠ All passed.

3♥8-10 HCP, guaranteed top 2 of 3, 7+ suit
D promises 4♠ and 7+ HCP
RD promises 2+♥ and 10+ HCP

[barmar]

Who is the wimpy North who only bid 3♥ with a solid 8 card suit? If he just bid 4♥ on his first turn he'd probably get to play it and we wouldn't be having this discussion.