[babalu1997]

TimG, on Dec 29 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

I think it would be a good project for an enterprising young author to put together an "expert standard" book describing a coherent system with detailed discussions of the methods -- sort of a Bridge World Standard book rather than summary -- that would be sufficient for pick-up partnerships and would serve as a good base for those wishing to establish more detailed partnership agreements.

The problem is not the existence of materials, materials exist for anything you would like to play.

Books written by experts are never a substitute for building experience.

The difficulty is finding a partner who will agree to play adefined system. postmortem the pants of games played online consistently.

It is very rare to establish regular partnerships online. People tend to play with a cohort of partners but never really set a time to meet and play.

If you could find such a partner, get some books (Marshall miles set, for example), and read it together.

[whereagles]

TimG, on Dec 29 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

I think it would be a good project for an enterprising young author to put together an "expert standard" book describing a coherent system with detailed discussions of the methods -- sort of a Bridge World Standard book rather than summary -- that would be sufficient for pick-up partnerships and would serve as a good base for those wishing to establish more detailed partnership agreements.

I'm trying to do something similar in my country. Maybe it's ready in 1 year.

[RichMor]

I would vote for:

anything from Lawrence - a good clear writer

anything from Miles - a good but sort of complex writer

nothing from Hardy - no offense meant but he wrote simplistic books for average club players who wanted to try 2/1.

something from K Rexford - he's always understandable

[TimG]

babalu1997, on Dec 29 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

TimG, on Dec 29 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

I think it would be a good project for an enterprising young author to put together an "expert standard" book describing a coherent system with detailed discussions of the methods -- sort of a Bridge World Standard book rather than summary -- that would be sufficient for pick-up partnerships and would serve as a good base for those wishing to establish more detailed partnership agreements.

The problem is not the existence of materials, materials exist for anything you would like to play.

I think you under-estimate the potential audience.

I think there is something called BBO 2/1 -- or at least there is a default CC on BBO for 2/1. If an author could take this 2/1 system and write a book around it, there would be customers.

The book ought to be designed to describe the base system to advanced beginner/intermediate type players who are looking to move from standard American to a 2/1 system that they can play with pick-up partners online. Or, that they could use as a base for more regular partnerships. More regular partnerships would likely add to the system...but that just means there is potential for a sequel.

Yes, materials exist for for everything, but not every description of NMF or 4th Suit Forcing is the same. And, putting it together in a coherent system really isn't as easy as a la carte conventions.

[vuroth]

Isn't that more or less what BWS is?

[TimG]

vuroth, on Dec 29 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

Isn't that more or less what BWS is?

BWS is a summary that can fit onto a page or two.

[H_KARLUK]

vuroth, on Dec 28 2008, 09:40 PM, said:

I'm getting mixed reviews on both Hardy and Lawrence.  Anyone know of a decent text that describes common modern usage of 2/1 (assuming such a thing even exists).

V

I think everything started with a reaction to Italians Blue Club. IMO Roth&Stone employed a new approach – F1 NT of responder !
I can say most features of their system adapted to SAYC&2/1. Hardy then Lawrence and many famous experts naturally published different comments.
Why don't you start reading Roth&Stone system please ? I see many versions of 2/1 in th field with a lot creative ideas. No offense, but it is also a truth that "modern things sometimes may be dangerous"

Happy 2009 my friend Vuroth.
All th best

Hamdi