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What's your rebid? Let's see how you handle it...

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  1. Pass (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  2. Bid 4 Clubs (4 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  3. Bid 4 Diamonds (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  4. Bid 4 Hearts (9 votes [39.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.13%

  5. Bid 4NT (2 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  6. Bid 5 Diamonds (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  7. Bid 5 Hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Other (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

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Posted 2008-December-16, 12:59

You hold

♠x
♥Qxxx
♦AKQxxxx
♣x

Bidding goes:

Pass 1♦ 2♣ 2♠
3♣ X Pass 3♥
Pass ???

Well, probably it's not a rebid, a re-rebid maybe?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-December-16, 13:26

Abstain, double of 3-clubs was incorrect.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-December-16, 13:30

Abstain

Would have opened 5♦
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Posted 2008-December-16, 13:55

Abstain.

I would have rebid 3♦ rather than the ambiguous double.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 15:30

Abstain, ditto han.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 15:40

What to bid with an impossibly difficult hand after having already made an impossibly wrong decision?

Wild ass guess works.

Nothing will tell partner that you have this hand. So, you either bid 4♥ or 6♥, IMO. Maybe even 7♥.

I'll guess 6♥.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 15:42

Hi,

4H, but I would not be there, what speaks against rebidding my
solid 7 card suit?
4D the round before.

with kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I dont think 3D the round before is enough, since this can be
passed, if not, of course the bid is perfect.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 16:02

Abstain, ditto Richard.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 16:31

Abstain, don't know why I didn't bid 3♦ last round.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 16:41

Why is everybody abstaining? Regardless of what happened before, it's very simple now. Just keycard and conclude.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 16:41

Oh come on guys. Yes, double was weird last round, but it's worked out fine. At least we've found hearts, and partner may well have been endplayed into 3N over 3d with an iffy club stopper.

I would definitely bid just 4h now and wish partner luck. Slam needs way too many cards in partner's hand.
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Posted 2008-December-16, 17:42

I think rebidding 3♦ makes it difficult to reach 4♥. I think doubling and not getting the heart response would have gotten us to diamonds eventually, wouldn't it?

Or is it that this hand HAS to be played in diamonds? It is MP after all.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-December-16, 17:44

Hanoi5, on Dec 16 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

I think rebidding 3♦ makes it difficult to reach 4♥. I think doubling and not getting the heart response would have gotten us to diamonds eventually, wouldn't it?

Or is it that this hand HAS to be played in diamonds? It is MP after all.

Would 3♥ be an insufficient bid over 3♦ or something?
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Posted 2008-December-16, 18:02

jdonn, on Dec 16 2008, 04:30 PM, said:

Abstain, ditto han.

abstain, ditto josh
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Posted 2008-December-16, 19:49

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Would 3♥ be an insufficient bid over 3♦ or something?


It may sound amazing but I hadn't thought of this. :P

However, what if bidding 3♦ makes partner think I don't have 4 hearts? The 3♣ double is a negative double which 'tends' to show 4 hearts, while I thought 3♦ denied it. Of course this shouldn't be so unless you have specifically this agreement, so I guess I should have bid 3♦. Only 9 tricks were available though.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-December-17, 04:21

Hi,

As I have gone out of my to locate the heart fit. I guess I should bid 4H now.
4D is an interesting bid...

ps I think 3D is a better description of the hand rather than the dble.

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Posted 2008-December-17, 04:36

kenrexford, on Dec 17 2008, 12:44 AM, said:

Hanoi5, on Dec 16 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

I think rebidding 3♦ makes it difficult to reach 4♥. I think doubling and not getting the heart response would have gotten us to diamonds eventually, wouldn't it?

Or is it that this hand HAS to be played in diamonds? It is MP after all.

Would 3♥ be an insufficient bid over 3♦ or something?

No but p would not introduce a 4-card hearts over 3♦. If you really want to locate a 4-4 heart fit (which wouldn't be my priority) you have to double I think.

Anyway, ditto Viren.
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Posted 2008-December-17, 15:15

karlson, on Dec 16 2008, 05:41 PM, said:

Oh come on guys. Yes, double was weird last round, but it's worked out fine.

Double was not just weird, it was really bad imo. Pointing this out seems like the most useful feedback to give.
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Posted 2008-December-17, 15:30

helene_t, on Dec 17 2008, 05:36 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Dec 17 2008, 12:44 AM, said:

Hanoi5, on Dec 16 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

I think rebidding 3♦ makes it difficult to reach 4♥. I think doubling and not getting the heart response would have gotten us to diamonds eventually, wouldn't it?

Or is it that this hand HAS to be played in diamonds? It is MP after all.

Would 3♥ be an insufficient bid over 3♦ or something?

No but p would not introduce a 4-card hearts over 3♦. If you really want to locate a 4-4 heart fit (which wouldn't be my priority) you have to double I think.

Anyway, ditto Viren.

Why would partner not bid a four-card heart suit after 3♦? Is there some rule that says that a 3♦ bidder cannot have four hearts, that a 2♠ bidder cannot have four hearts, and that you cannot bid them even if you have them?
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Posted 2008-December-17, 16:03

I'm completely with Ken on this one. How can you say double seems to have worked? We are now guessing what to do when we could have described our hand and left it to partner. I really can't think of a reason partner wouldn't bid hearts over 3♦ if he held hearts.
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