Local versions of Muiderberg What's the current trend?
#1
Posted 2008-December-15, 23:38
So called Muiderberg twos (there are other names like Dutch 2s) fit well with that, where 2♥/♠ show 5-card suits & another suit, 5-5 when vulnerable, 5-4 okay not vul.
There are variations on shape & suit shown.
Which version is dominant now where you live?
Which is better?
#2
Posted 2008-December-15, 23:43
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#3
Posted 2008-December-16, 01:11
There are some who play 5M + 5m and some who play 2♥ as hearts and another.
Which is better? I am not really sure but I would be happy with 5/4 not vul and mostly need 5/5 vulnerable or something similar.
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#4
Posted 2008-December-16, 02:20
My guess is that most play a kind of Benjamin or the like, but when they play two-suiters, the polish style (H+any, S+m) is dominant.
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#5
Posted 2008-December-16, 02:36
Codo, on Dec 16 2008, 01:20 AM, said:
My guess is that most play a kind of Benjamin or the like, but when they play two-suiters, the polish style (H+any, S+m) is dominant.
Benjamin?
#6
Posted 2008-December-16, 02:38
In the Netherlands some use alternative spellings (Muiderzand, Puinerberg, Modderheuvel) to indicate that they play "something similar to Muiderberg".
#7
Posted 2008-December-16, 03:07
CSGibson, on Dec 16 2008, 10:36 AM, said:
Codo, on Dec 16 2008, 01:20 AM, said:
My guess is that most play a kind of Benjamin or the like, but when they play two-suiters, the polish style (H+any, S+m) is dominant.
Benjamin?
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#8
Posted 2008-December-16, 09:59
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#9
Posted 2008-December-16, 10:17
blackshoe, on Dec 16 2008, 10:59 AM, said:
One reason is probably that Muiderberg is a mid-chart convention in ACBL (though I'm wondering what precludes it from the GCC :-)). Same with Multi (which is now limited to 6+ board segments). Probably not much opportunity to play either in Rochester.
#10
Posted 2008-December-16, 10:50
Some strong clubbers play what they call Roman 2's: 2M showing an opening hand with 5+M and 4+♣. And it's not very uncommon to play the 2NT opening to show a 5-5 hand with *any* 2 suits. Also, I've seen some play Muiderberg-ish in a way, where 2♠ is used for both majors (instead of 2♥ that was in the list).
Personally I'd choose 5M-4+m nonvulnerable and 5M-5+m vulnerable. I didn't vote, because perhaps you can't really classify OCR as a form of Muiderberg.
Sadly, this margin was too small to contain it.
#11
Posted 2008-December-16, 21:05
TimG, on Dec 16 2008, 12:17 PM, said:
blackshoe, on Dec 16 2008, 10:59 AM, said:
One reason is probably that Muiderberg is a mid-chart convention in ACBL (though I'm wondering what precludes it from the GCC :-)). Same with Multi (which is now limited to 6+ board segments). Probably not much opportunity to play either in Rochester.
I keep saying there's almost no opportunity to try out Mid-Chart stuff around here, and everybody keeps telling me it's no problem in California or whetever, so it can't possibly be a problem for me.
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#12
Posted 2008-December-17, 00:53
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#13
Posted 2008-December-17, 01:06
I certainly think they should promise 5-5 when vul.
As for the 'current trend', the number of pairs instead playing 2D as a bad weak two and 2M as a good weak two is on the increase.
#14
Posted 2008-December-17, 08:44

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