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Go slamming or not?
#1
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Posted 2008-December-14, 12:50
Pass - (pass) - 1♥ - (pass)
2♦ - (pass) - 3♥ - (pass)
4♥ - (pass) - ?
Do you continue?
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Posted 2008-December-14, 12:52
I should probably add you have minimal discussion with partner, 4♦ after 3♥ is undiscussed as is the nature of your cuebids (1st/mixed)
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Posted 2008-December-14, 13:27
No, partner could have cuebid and chose not to.
Just to clarify, I would also not cooperate with a cuebid, it is very unlikely that we have slam on opposite a PH.
Just to clarify, I would also not cooperate with a cuebid, it is very unlikely that we have slam on opposite a PH.
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Posted 2008-December-14, 13:32
Give partner something really nice such as the king of hearts and AK-sixth of diamonds, maybe xxx Kx AK10xxx xx. A close to perfect hand and slam has no play after a club lead. I would pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-December-14, 13:35
No.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-December-14, 13:37
Add me to the no's. It's barely possible I think to construct hands for partner where you want to be in slam, but extremely few.
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Posted 2008-December-14, 15:18
No. I have a good imagination, and I cannot imagine partner's hand where slam can make.
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Posted 2008-December-14, 15:20
If my partner hadn't passed at his first turn I'd continue.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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Posted 2008-December-14, 20:49
I'd pass... Partner could've made a stronger move and didn't. What in my hand says I should argue?
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Posted 2008-December-14, 21:33
HeavyDluxe, on Dec 14 2008, 08:49 PM, said:
I'd pass... Partner could've made a stronger move and didn't. What in my hand says I should argue?
We agree as I also pass.
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Posted 2008-December-15, 03:58
There are two ways to think about this type of problem:
a) Do I have anything more than I shown so far?
Are there hands for partner, consistent with the bidding, where it is right for us to move now?
Looking at (a): When we rebid 3H we showed about 15+ HCP with a decent 6+ card suit. That's exactly what we have - a 17-count is slightly more than usual, but our heart suit is poor. Partner would raise to 4H on a low doubleton. The QJx of diamonds is nice in partner's suit, but only to the extent of upgrading it to being worth its full 3 points, rather than anything more. In summary, we have roughly a minimum hand for the auction so far, so there is no reason to do any more bidding.
While we may not know what 4D would have meant over 3H, as partner is a passed hand he can safely bid 3S over 3H, and he could probably also try 4C as a heart cue. So partner is likely to have a minimum 4H bid. Our poor heart suit makes slam very unlikely, as we won't be able to win the lead, draw trump, and run the diamonds, we are likely to have to knock out a heart or a diamond top card, in which case a club lead will beat slam. SO this also points to a pass being correct.
a) Do I have anything more than I shown so far?
Are there hands for partner, consistent with the bidding, where it is right for us to move now?Looking at (a): When we rebid 3H we showed about 15+ HCP with a decent 6+ card suit. That's exactly what we have - a 17-count is slightly more than usual, but our heart suit is poor. Partner would raise to 4H on a low doubleton. The QJx of diamonds is nice in partner's suit, but only to the extent of upgrading it to being worth its full 3 points, rather than anything more. In summary, we have roughly a minimum hand for the auction so far, so there is no reason to do any more bidding.
While we may not know what 4D would have meant over 3H, as partner is a passed hand he can safely bid 3S over 3H, and he could probably also try 4C as a heart cue. So partner is likely to have a minimum 4H bid. Our poor heart suit makes slam very unlikely, as we won't be able to win the lead, draw trump, and run the diamonds, we are likely to have to knock out a heart or a diamond top card, in which case a club lead will beat slam. SO this also points to a pass being correct.
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Posted 2008-December-15, 04:40
Pass. Francis's explanation is well though out, and one hundred percent in line with my reaction to the OP.
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Posted 2008-December-15, 07:07
I would pass too and complaint later on BBF that my pd had xx,Axx,AKxxx,xxx and we made 3 overtricks after a spade lead and a making heart finesse....
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Posted 2008-December-15, 10:06
Pard passed. He/she doesn't have it. I'll enjoy the overtrick.
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