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#1 User is offline   matmat 

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Posted 2008-December-09, 01:26

imps, all red, first seat

--- 8xxx AKQJxx Kxx

1♦-(1♠)-P-(3♠)
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Posted 2008-December-09, 02:20

3♠ is weak? Where are the ♥'s?
I think you have to pass or bid 5♦ - pass
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Posted 2008-December-09, 03:21

I pass.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 03:36

Pass, that was not so hard.

I'm worried that partner will double, then I have a problem.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 15:10

Well, I don't have a problem at all.

Dbl myself :P
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Posted 2008-December-09, 17:28

double looks dangerous, I might do it in the end, but I am not happy about it. Depends on who my partner is (Dad for example would never leave this double without solid trump stack such as QJ10x)

With a random partner I bid 4♦ and live another day.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 17:43

Have to bid something. My first thought was 4♥ but that is probably crazy. 4♦ then.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 18:03

Pass really seems clear to me. This hand is not very strong at all, partner couldn't make a negative double, where am I going?
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Posted 2008-December-09, 18:20

Doubling REALLY threatens to have partner leave this in. My partner doubled in a spot like this the other day and caught me with A1087x of trumps... -980.

Bidding diamonds on any level really overstates the value of my hand.

Anything else is right out.

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Pass.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 18:20

Agree that Pass is completely obvious.

Double IMO is ridiculous - double should show a strong hand with short spades, happy for partner to pass with spade length and a balanced hand. If I was forced to do something other than pass, it would be 4♦.
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Posted 2008-December-09, 18:21

helene_t, on Dec 9 2008, 06:43 PM, said:

My first thought was 4♥ but that is probably crazy.

Certifiably insane, if you ask me.
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