[whereagles]

Suggest wiping out the BPO forum, along with the youth and junior forums, due to generalized lack of interest on both.

Also suggest merging the "interesting hands" and "adv/exp class" forums due to redundancy between the 2.

[matmat]

whereagles, on Dec 5 2008, 06:52 PM, said:

Suggest wiping out the BPO forum, along with the youth and junior forums, due to generalized lack of interest on both.

Also suggest merging the "interesting hands" and "adv/exp class" forums due to redundancy between the 2.

interesting suggestions.

i'd just rename "interesting hands" to "cute hands"

[jdonn]

Uh...why, and why? Is your life too complicated to keep track of all 10 bridge-related threads?

Don't make silly suggestions, instead be part of the solution. Find some interesting threads that you can start in the underused forums!

[csdenmark]

Agree.

As there are no longer software changes some merges in those 3-4 forums will be right too.

Last post in slovenian forum February 6, 2007
Last post in italian forum May 28, 2008

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Looks like a new forum about laws, regulation etc. might be worth considering.

[whereagles]

jdonn, on Dec 5 2008, 11:57 PM, said:

1. Uh...why, and why?

2.Don't make silly suggestions, instead be part of the solution.

3. Find some interesting threads that you can start in the underused forums!

1. huh...? I said "due to" and "due to" on both your whys.

2. Don't say silly things just because it's me giving the suggestions. Instead, be part of that rare breed of humans who can thing clearly instead of having prejudice.

3. Sure. Just send me a book on black magic so I can learn how to raise dead

[Echognome]

I can just see the headlines:

"Due to the recent economic woes, BBF has decided to eliminate the Youth and Junior forums and merge the Italian and Slovenian forum. Talks are still ongoing whether to merge the Adv/Exp forum with the Interesting Hands forum. Experts are concerned whether the Italians and Slovenians will get along or have border disputes. Some others are concerned that the Juniors and Youth will not know where to go and start frequenting the other forums that may be unappropriate for them. Finally, there are murmurs that people with uninteresting hands that want to post in the Adv/Exp forum will have no place to go."

More at 11.

[jdonn]

whereagles, on Dec 5 2008, 07:06 PM, said:

1. huh...? I said "due to" and "due to" on both your whys.

2. Don't say silly things just because it's me giving the suggestions. Instead, be part of that rare breed of humans who can thing clearly instead of having prejudice.

3. Sure. Just send me a book on black magic so I can learn how to raise dead 

1. Why 'do you care that there are rarely-used forums which have no negative impact on you at all'?
2. You are becoming paranoid. I think I actually use good restraint to avoid responding to many of your silly posts. In fact look around today, among all the posters I have not been the most critical of you, or the second most...
3. Sorry I don't get it. I'm sure it was funny though.
4. DON'T CHANGE MY QUOTES! (This one in convenient numerical form so you don't have to alter what was said.)

[JoAnneM]

I can't imagine why anyone would care if there is a Forum area that is underused. It is irrelevant. I do like the suggestion of adding an area for discussion of bridge laws, director calls, etc., outside of BBO games.

I think the BBO Forum reading base is very wide, and includes people who do a lot of ftf playing.

[the hog]

Jeez, don't jump down his throat. He has a point and he made a reasonab;e suggestion.
Anyway, if its irrelevant then why not follow his suggestions?

[Trumpace]

The BPO forum already has 10 pages of topics. Even though it is not currently used, people might be reading old threads. Why wipe those out?

But good that you posted, maybe it will revive interest in BPO...

[awm]

As I've mentioned before, I would support some merging/renaming of forums. It would make it a lot easier to search for old threads if nothing else. The issue is... suppose I remember that there was an interesting thread about two-way new-minor force. Such a thread could easily have appeared in any of:

General Bridge
SAYC or 2/1
Non-Natural Systems
Beginner/Intermediate
Advanced/Expert

In other words, the forum names have hardly helped me at all. Similarly, I might remember that Frances posted a thread about an interesting bidding problem where the fourth suit was named at the four-level. This could easily be in:

General Bridge
SAYC or 2/1
Interesting Bridge Hands
Advanced/Expert
Offline Bridge

It seems somewhat more sensible (to me anyway) to split into categories that reflect the kind of posts you expect to see in the thread. I'd have gone with something like:

Play and Defense Problems
Bidding Problems
Conventions and Systems
Beginner/Intermediate (and Teaching)
Offline Tournaments and Vugraph
Laws and Rulings

[han]

I've never had a problem picking a forum but I can see others might have a harder time.

[han]

Oh I would also suggest keeping the BPO forum alive in the hope that somebody will organize another. Maybe I'll do it someday.

[nige1]

whereagles, on Dec 5 2008, 06:52 PM, said:

Suggest wiping out the BPO forum, along with the youth and junior forums, due to generalized lack of interest on both.

Also suggest merging the "interesting hands" and "adv/exp class" forums due to redundancy between the 2.

In principle, I agree with Adam. Perhaps we could keep separate Bridge sections for

• Bidding.
  
• Declarer play.
  
• Defence.
  
• Systems and conventions.
  
• Laws and regulations.
  
• Teachers and partners.

These categories seem to be roughly orthogonal i.e most topics would fit into one and only one category.

[matmat]

nige1, on Dec 5 2008, 09:55 PM, said:

Theses categories seem to be roughly orthogonal i.e most topics would fit into one and only one category.

yes, but are they orthonormal?

[JoAnneM]

It's irrelevant because it's not broken. I can see adding to the Forum but why delete something that's there and not hurting anyone.

[maggieb]

I'm relatively new to the forums but I like it a ton! Many good problems and interesting views (some a little too radical for my taste!). A separate forum for rulings seems like a good idea, but sometimes you want to post a ruling question without telling that it is a ruling question!

[whereagles]

jdonn, on Dec 6 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

4. DON'T CHANGE MY QUOTES!

Always good to know how to get on your nerves. Thanks

On another note, agree to the laws forum.

[Free]

Trumpace, on Dec 6 2008, 01:55 AM, said:

The BPO forum already has 10 pages of topics. Even though it is not currently used, people might be reading old threads. Why wipe those out?

But good that you posted, maybe it will revive interest in BPO...

Imo it's not good to just delete forums, but you might just bundle them into some sort of an archive...

I also think adv/exp and interesting bridge hands are usually the same sort of topics anyway.

[jdonn]

The_Hog, on Dec 5 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Jeez, don't jump down his throat. He has a point and he made a reasonab;e suggestion.

Sarcastic answer: Sorry mommy.
Serious answer: He posted a suggestion in a public forum. I had the gall to disagree with the suggestion, and even offered an alternative course of action that would clearly be more constructive. I got called prejudiced and was misquoted for my troubles. Meanwhile, you didn't see fit to reply to the two (in particular, there could be more) posters who were absolutely flaming him in another thread. So please try harder not to mix up the jumper with the jumpee.

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Anyway, if its irrelevant then why not follow his suggestions?

Are you just trying to egg me on into blasting you too and really losing my mind, or do you mean that as a serious comment?

JoAnneM, on Dec 5 2008, 11:06 PM, said:

It's irrelevant because it's not broken.  I can see adding to the Forum but why delete something that's there and not hurting anyone.

I agree completely (this is essentially the non-sarcastic way of saying what I was trying to say to begin with.)

whereagles, on Dec 6 2008, 07:43 AM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 6 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

4. DON'T CHANGE MY QUOTES!

Always good to know how to get on your nerves. Thanks

- I think you are fully aware that the least of your problems is figuring out ways to get on my nerves.
- I find it unbelievable that someone who has as much experience participating in online forums as you do (at least this one) does not realize what a terrible thing it is to change what someone said and quote it, even in a way that seems innocuous to you. It's one of the most egregious violations of netiquette possible.