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Do you pass or takeout?
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Posted 2004-April-19, 22:22
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2004-April-20, 04:56
3♥:
The problem here is to know if partner has a strong 18-20 balanced or he has long ♠ running before his ♦ stoppers are gone. Both are possible, but I think I will give west some credit for his bid and bid 3♥ (if he isn´t worth my trust I beleive he won´t let 2NT be played and we will face another problem). Again another bidding where knowing your opponents would help!.
The problem here is to know if partner has a strong 18-20 balanced or he has long ♠ running before his ♦ stoppers are gone. Both are possible, but I think I will give west some credit for his bid and bid 3♥ (if he isn´t worth my trust I beleive he won´t let 2NT be played and we will face another problem). Again another bidding where knowing your opponents would help!.
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Posted 2004-April-20, 05:25
pass, and suggest you can bid 2♥ after 2♦ overcall with such hand 
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Posted 2004-April-20, 06:59
3♥ not because i'm weak but because thats what partner wanted when he made the double which is t/o short in diamonds.
if for example i had
XX
XXX
XXXX
XXXX
then i would take it out not of a choice but because i know 2nt will make with overtricks.
if for example i had
XX
XXX
XXXX
XXXX
then i would take it out not of a choice but because i know 2nt will make with overtricks.
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Posted 2004-April-20, 07:08
Most probably TO with short ♦, so 3♥ ! 
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Posted 2004-April-20, 08:53
3♥
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Posted 2004-April-20, 19:00
Interesting that most of you regard the x for takeout with short Ds rather than a penalty X. Frankly I didn't care either way:
My hand was:
Axxxx
AKQJ2
x
AQ
Pd bid 3H . 650 as opposed to 800, as interestingly, rho said he would not have pulled the X to 3D. He held:
KQxx
xx
KTx
Kxxx
My hand was:
Axxxx
AKQJ2
x
AQ
Pd bid 3H . 650 as opposed to 800, as interestingly, rho said he would not have pulled the X to 3D. He held:
KQxx
xx
KTx
Kxxx
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Posted 2004-April-20, 21:05
The_Hog, on Apr 20 2004, 08:00 PM, said:
Pd bid 3H . 650 as opposed to 800, as interestingly, rho said he would not have pulled the X to 3D. He held:
KQxx
xx
KTx
Kxxx
KQxx
xx
KTx
Kxxx
Where are these opponents when I play? Ones that can make 3♦ (6♦+3♠), and prefer to play 2NTX down 800. 3♥ is the right bid over double, simple.
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Posted 2004-April-21, 05:29
Not pull with nothing in ♥, KTx in ♦ and no ace !!
That should be some kind of masochism !! LOL
That should be some kind of masochism !! LOL
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Posted 2004-April-21, 07:37
I think it is the other guy who should have pulled out, what did he bid with? ♦AQJ and ♠&♣J´s? there I found my masochist 
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Althoug he didn´t wanna pull out, its interesting if redouble of either of the opponents here would be SOS or that 'hey man, I am not very sure about this' thing (wich fits good with both I think)
.Althoug he didn´t wanna pull out, its interesting if redouble of either of the opponents here would be SOS or that 'hey man, I am not very sure about this' thing (wich fits good with both I think)
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Posted 2004-April-21, 07:38
Pass, if pd doesn't know what he is doing we'll talk later.
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Posted 2004-April-21, 13:17
I would also take-out because I think that's what partner is expecting me to do.
With partner's hand I might have bid 3H myself.
With partner's hand I might have bid 3H myself.
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Posted 2004-April-21, 14:03
You have a ten card fit, I would put this hand in the sucessfull hands because he had 10 card fit and didnt sell it low. I dont judge bye a single score, and happy when i bid what my TT tell me.
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Posted 2004-April-24, 16:09
Free, on Apr 20 2004, 06:25 AM, said:
pass, and suggest you can bid 2♥ after 2♦ overcall with such hand
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Posted 2004-April-24, 16:11
3♥
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Posted 2004-April-25, 05:24
Pass.
The way I play dbl means 5+♣ or penalty, so 3♥ is not an option. With take out my p can bid 3♣: 3+♣, 4+♥ or 3♦: 5+♥ strong or 3♥: 5+♥ competitive... Losing tempo to show distribution after they found fit is very vulnerable.
Misho
The way I play dbl means 5+♣ or penalty, so 3♥ is not an option. With take out my p can bid 3♣: 3+♣, 4+♥ or 3♦: 5+♥ strong or 3♥: 5+♥ competitive... Losing tempo to show distribution after they found fit is very vulnerable.
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