[inquiry]

Scoring: IMP


T1 ♠K-x-x-A
T2 ♦x-x-x-A
T3.♠x-♦x-x-K

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West North East South
 Pass  Pass  Pass  2♣!
 2♠    Pass  Pass  3♠!
 Pass  4♥    Pass  6♦
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

Not scientific bidding. Opening lead ♠K. West shows up with a singleton ♦ (giving EAST ♦JTxx and a sure ♦ trick). Plan your play.

Ben

[Trpltrbl]

Since I am sure the ♥ ain't breaking 3-3, otherwise you would not have posted it. I will have to play for a squeeze. West must have Qx(x)♣ and 10xxx of ♥ and also holding 6♠, on the run of ♦ he is done.

Mike

This post has been edited by Trpltrbl: 2004-April-19, 09:31

[inquiry]

Trpltrbl, on Apr 19 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

Since I am sure the ♥ ain't breaking 3-3, otherwise you would not have posted it. I will have to play for a squeeze. West must have QJx(x)♣ and 10xxx of ♥ and also holding 6♠, on the run of ♦ he is done.

Mike

Mike, I have all kinds of reasons for posting hands..... Some reasons are better than others.... :-)

Ben

[Flame]

Trpltrbl, on Apr 19 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

. West must have QJx(x)♣ and 10xxx of ♥ and also holding 6♠, on the run of ♦ he is done.

Mike

you gave west 14+ cards.
You better try for double sqeeze.

[Trpltrbl]

Flame, on Apr 19 2004, 10:13 AM, said:

Trpltrbl, on Apr 19 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

. West must have QJx(x)♣ and 10xxx of ♥ and also holding 6♠, on the run of ♦ he is done.

Mike 

you gave west 14+ cards.
You better try for double sqeeze.

Oops you are right, then there are many more possibilities. And a double squeeze is one of them .

Mike

[Free]

Perhaps it's a throw in. If east has something like xx-xxxxx-JTxx-xx for example. You'll have to get East a trick at the right time. Play ♥K, take ♥Q over with the Ace and ruff a ♠. Now you play ♣AK and ♦Qx, and East will have to come a ♥ to the J9, where you can discard your losing ♣s.

To be honest, I don't think a (double) squeeze will work, because you don't have the entries you need (correct me if I'm wrong)...

[Flame]

Free, on Apr 19 2004, 11:22 AM, said:

Perhaps it's a throw in.  If east has something like xx-xxxxx-JTxx-xx for example.  You'll have to get East a trick at the right time.  Play ♥K, take ♥Q over with the Ace and ruff a ♠.  Now you play ♣AK and ♦Qx, and East will have to come a ♥ to the J9, where you can discard your losing ♣s.

To be honest, I don't think a (double) squeeze will work, because you don't have the entries you need (correct me if I'm wrong)...

maybe the right term isnt double squeeze.
I dont know if the correct name is double squeeze, but there is more then 1 sqeeze possibility here. The problem is that i couldnt find a way that works everytime, so as far as i know now i have to choose what to squeeze for.
option 1: simple squeeze on east with 4 hearts and QJ of club or Q/j 4 time.
option 2: simple squeeze on west with 4 hearts and the K of spade.
option 3: simple squeeze on west with QJ of club and K of spade, to do this you will have to give up on the 3-3 heart hreak option.
option 4: which for now seems the best will work every time hearts are 3-3 or when west has 4+ heart or when east got 4 hearts and QJx or Q/J 4 time club.
Its done like this :
you get to :

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now you play the last diamond and throw the last club, if west began with 4 hearts he is now down to
K of spade and 3 hearts,now on the A of club he is squeezed.
if east began with 4 hearts and the club QJX or Q/Jxxx
he is down to 3 hearts and can only have 1 club so he is squeezed now.(you throw the J of spade from dummy)

[inquiry]

You guys are on the right track. When EAST has a sure ♦ trick, you have to rely on a squeeze. And as Flame points out, there are several to choose among. Some might consider WEST to have four ♥ to explain why he didn't start with 2♠ when holding what looks like a six card suit (giving him 6-4-1-2 distribution). That might be my first thought... but what is going to happen, is you are going to lose a ♦ to EAST now and win the ♥, ♣, or ♠ return. The very best return for the defense is a small ♣. But I never expect the very best, so let's say you duck a ♦ at trick four and a ♦ or a ♠ comes back. Win in hand, and run ♦. You will come to a five card ending, not dissimilar to the one FLAME showed....

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If from WEST's (and East's)discards, you think he was 6-4-1-2, you have to cash your ♣s. If you think WEST has 2 or 3 ♥ originally, don't touch ♣, but rather lead a ♥ for the double squeeze. Note the need for two ♣ winners here or the double squeeze would not work (of course, you would still make if the spade bidder had 3 or 4 ♥'s.

The reason this hand was posted, was not for this line of play. Now, imagine if you will, the real world situation. Where at trick two, when you cash the first ♦, WEST drops the ♦T or ♦J. Now, how do you play it?

Ben

[Flame]

It seems best to just play K of diamond and on 4-1 diamond break play like before.
there are some funny plays here but each one got its defect.

[Fluffy]

Restrricted choicec doesn´t apply against experts on this psotion becase they autoplay a honor from ♦J10x, moreover finesing not will only break your squeeze posibilities, but it will end with ♥3-3 option as well.

[EarlPurple]

The hand seems to play itself. You will always make if hearts are 3-3, but there's no need to test them right now. Just play off the trumps, East has nothing particularly great to return so we win in hand and play off the ace and king of clubs, one top heart and all the diamonds throwing the SJ in dummy if the queen hasn't yet appeared. If the top clubs have also not both appeared we try the hearts.

Someone holding 4 hearts may have been squeezed. Alternatively the ten may have been doubleton all along.