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#1 User is offline   catch22 

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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:44

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P-(1S)


Is this a 2H bid or a double?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:54

2♥
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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:55

I'd bid 2♥. Puts me in a good position if next hand raises. (I'll back in with a double.)
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Posted 2008-November-16, 04:56

2♥, I think this is clear. If LHO raises I will double back in and be very satisfied with this description of my hand, which seems very likely to occur.

I will pay off to a heart stack, which I think people generally overestimate the chance of.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 05:44

2♥ and then double. Add a king and bid it the other way 'round.

Surely this hand is worth two calls.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 06:25

2♥.

If it can be avoided, I don't like to make a takeout double (suggesting 4 cards in the unbid majors) when holding a 5 card major. That can make it impossible to uncover a 5-3 major fit. I would double if the hearts were 5 small, perhaps even with A5432, but there is no reason to avoid the overcall with AJT75.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 09:58

agree with 2H
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:29

Joining the unanimity.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:53

Needs another K working to X then 3H, esp opposite a passed partner. Even 2H then X is pushing with this --take the H-fit chance then quit except for 1xS.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 13:13

I'm ok with doubling. What I'd do at table would depend on tactical factors.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 13:17

whereagles, on Nov 16 2008, 02:13 PM, said:

I'm ok with doubling. What I'd do at table would depend on tactical factors.

Yes such as "do I want to make the correct bid or a worse bid?"

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Posted 2008-November-16, 14:05

pclayton, on Nov 16 2008, 05:44 AM, said:

2♥ and then double. Add a king and bid it the other way 'round.

Surely this hand is worth two calls.

Agreed and a clear decision for me
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Posted 2008-November-16, 14:58

jdonn, on Nov 16 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 16 2008, 02:13 PM, said:

I'm ok with doubling. What I'd do at table would depend on tactical factors.

Yes such as "do I want to make the correct bid or a worse bid?"

:)

The correct bid is the one I make, regardless of what it actually is :)
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Posted 2008-November-16, 16:15

2 ♠. I can live with that.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 17:18

I think an interesting question would be how much of a weaker hand before we determine it's a one-bid hand and we double versus 2♥.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 17:53

Echognome, on Nov 16 2008, 06:18 PM, said:

I think an interesting question would be how much of a weaker hand before we determine it's a one-bid hand and we double versus 2♥.

Even if it's a one-bid hand, why shouldn't that bid be 2♥ instead of double?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 17:53

because of crappy hearts?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 18:37

Not strong enough for 2H and X, so X is a better bid than 2H. At MP ill be more tempted by 2H.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 18:51

Yeah. What Csaba said.

Comparing say x Kxxxx AQx Kxxx with say x AQT9x Kxx Kxxx.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 18:59

I really think it's taken too far, but certainly there is no question on the actual hand with AJTxx and plenty of values.
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