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Would it make a difference if the scoring was IMPs?
Would you come or not in at any other vulnerability?
If you pass how much stronger before you bid?
If you bid (or double) how much less before you pass?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 01:03
Do you take action here?
Would it make a difference if the scoring was IMPs?
Would you come or not in at any other vulnerability?
If you pass how much stronger before you bid?
If you bid (or double) how much less before you pass?
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-November-16, 01:05
I know I can go for a number, but I am bidding 5H.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 01:18
Double.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 01:26
Double.
Too strong to pass, too balanced to overcall at the 5 level, so double is all that is left.
If partner takes this takeout double out to 5m I will bid 5♥.
Too strong to pass, too balanced to overcall at the 5 level, so double is all that is left.
If partner takes this takeout double out to 5m I will bid 5♥.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 01:57
Double for sure. This is a situation that comes up from time to time and experienced players will recognize. With good defense and being relatively balanced, exact shape requirements are pretty much out the window.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 02:06
Dbl. Whatever might have worked, I'm sticking with my Dbl. If partner is on a yarborough, he will leave it in as "the smallest minus score for our side" and if he has something, he might make the right decision.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 02:42
X is obvious. If partner pull because of a S void its likely 5H makes.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-16, 03:43
Yup, double at any conditions. Be glad that you're 2623 not 22(63).
What if pard bids 5m or 4N now? I think I'd leave 5C, but bid 5H over 4N or 5D.
How much less before I'd pass instead of doubling? Hm. Turn the KC into the queen and I think I'd still double, make it the jack and I'd pass for sure.
What if pard bids 5m or 4N now? I think I'd leave 5C, but bid 5H over 4N or 5D.
How much less before I'd pass instead of doubling? Hm. Turn the KC into the queen and I think I'd still double, make it the jack and I'd pass for sure.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 09:44
655321, on Nov 16 2008, 01:26 AM, said:
Double.
Too strong to pass, too balanced to overcall at the 5 level, so double is all that is left.
If partner takes this takeout double out to 5m I will bid 5♥.
Too strong to pass, too balanced to overcall at the 5 level, so double is all that is left.
If partner takes this takeout double out to 5m I will bid 5♥.
Why are you removing 5♣? I doubt hearts are a better fit than clubs, on average. Are you trying to get to slam?
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Posted 2008-November-17, 15:00
Dbl + pull 5m. And I don't care what pard makes of this 
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Posted 2008-November-17, 16:31
cherdano, on Nov 17 2008, 10:44 AM, said:
655321, on Nov 16 2008, 01:26 AM, said:
If partner takes this takeout double out to 5m I will bid 5♥.
Why are you removing 5♣? I doubt hearts are a better fit than clubs, on average. Are you trying to get to slam?
Very good question, but I don't have a sensible answer.
I agree that 5♣ should be an acceptable contract, given partner didn't bid 4NT - i.e. he will have 5 clubs at an absolute minimum. I just feel that by passing 5♣ I haven't shown my hand.
Bidding 5♥ will be very expensive if 5♣ would have made, or if 5♣ was about to go off in 50's and 5♥ gets doubled for a number (perhaps that one is not so likely). But, bidding 5♥ tells partner I have a very good hand with hearts, so I guess my answer to your question must be yes, I am trying to get to slam. Or at least, that I believe that the occasions we get to slam will make up for the times bidding 5♥ will turn a plus into a minus.
Anyway, I could easily be persuaded that passing 5♣ is better than bidding 5♥.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 16:41
Yeah I'd double. And I'd sit for 5♣, too. Every time I pull my partner's double here to 5m it seems like I'm more likely to have 6 of them than 5 even and I think I've always got at least 5. I have no proof of 6 being more common nor belief that it's really true 
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Posted 2008-November-17, 21:33
Agree with double.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 22:11
I double. At all colors.
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