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#1 User is offline   Flame 

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Posted 2008-October-31, 04:11

In 2/1 GF system what is the quality of the major suit needed for a rebid of a suit after 1H-1S 1H-1NT or 1S-1NT. When would you rather bid a 3 card side suit instead of your 6 card major ?
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Posted 2008-October-31, 05:19

Its more a matter of strenght than suit quality.

1H-------1S
2H

1H-------1Nt
2H

1S-------1Nt
2S

These show minimum hands. But the suit quality can be anything.

1H-------1S
2m could be up to 18 pts.

With

Axxx
x
Axxx
JTxx



1H-------1S
3H-------???

95% of experts will bid 4H despite the singleton. So 3H should show a very good suit not just pts.

So with a good hand but bad suit you have to bid a 3 card minor despite holding a 6M, the idea is that partner will only pass holding a stiff in your major and a hand not strong enough to rebid 2Nt or raise your minor or to bid his suit. These hand you will play 2m instead of 3M but since game is unlikely its not a big problem.

Im not sure its 100% standard but its a pretty steady way to play.
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Posted 2008-October-31, 05:33

Flame, on Oct 31 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

In 2/1 GF system what is the quality of the major suit needed for a rebid of a suit after 1H-1S 1H-1NT or 1S-1NT. When would you rather bid a 3 card side suit instead of your 6 card major ?

I don't think I've ever wanted to bid a 3-card minor in this auction.

(Although I do play artificial methods over 1NT, perhaps if I didn't, I might find a suitable hand)
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Posted 2008-October-31, 06:42

Flame, on Oct 31 2008, 05:11 AM, said:

In 2/1 GF system what is the quality of the major suit needed for a rebid of a suit after 1H-1S 1H-1NT or 1S-1NT. When would you rather bid a 3 card side suit instead of your 6 card major ?

>When would you rather bid a 3 card side suit instead of your 6 card major ?

1. I need new glasses
2. I am drunk
3. I am senile.

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In standard 2/1 (not that there is such a thing)

1H-------1S
2H
Can be a 5 card suit


1H-------1Nt
2H
Guarantees a 6 card suit


1S-------1Nt
2S
Guarantees a 6 card suit


Maybe Steven Robinson (Washington Standard) or Frances play differently, but this is the more common agreement.
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Posted 2008-October-31, 06:51

ArcLight, on Oct 31 2008, 07:42 AM, said:

In standard 2/1 (not that  there is such a thing)

1H-------1S
2H
Can be a 5 card suit


1H-------1S
2H
shows a 6 card suit.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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