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shanbari, on Nov 3 2008, 03:22 PM, said:

stjk, on Oct 31 2008, 02:39 PM, said:

Thanks for all the replys!

Partner's hand was:

Qxxx  AJx  Qxxx  xx

vs.

Kxxx  KQx  A  AKxxx

the bdding was :

1C - 1S
4D - 4H
4N - 5C
5D - 6S

6S -1 = -50 = -11 IMP

So teammats are not happy with my 4D and pard's 4H bid.

Thanks,

does anyone agree 4h bid from responder ?

Qxxx AJx Qxxx xx, this is close to 9 loser hand, wasted DQ.

No. I do not agree with this cue. Responder can just as well throw the Q♦ out of the window leaving him with 7 pts.
IMO the 4NT RKCB after the 4♥ cue is then defendable.
Regards

[gnasher]

shanbari, on Nov 3 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

does anyone agree 4h bid from responder ?

Qxxx  AJx  Qxxx  xx, this is close to 9 loser hand, wasted DQ.

It's marginal, but Qxxx AJx xxxx xx doesn't look bad opposite a game-forcing splinter, and it's possible to construct hands for opener where slam is good.

The real problem with the auction was opener's decision to bid 4NT. With his stiff ace, poor trumps and mediocre side suit he has nothing extra at all, and should just sign off.

[Jboling]

Walddk, on Oct 31 2008, 02:58 AM, said:

keylime, on Oct 31 2008, 03:01 AM, said:

Playing Gazzilli this hand becomes a bid easier to bid because you know responder's range and shape on the 2nd turn.

I'm lost. Gazzilli is an artificial bid of 2♣ by opener after opening bids of 1♥/1♠ and responses of 1♠ or 1NT. It doesn't apply after 1mi.

1♣ - 1♠
2♣

Natural, non-forcing in any natural system I know.

Roland

You can play Gazzilli after minor-openings as well, but it is slightly more complicated than after major-openings. 1♣-1M-2♦, 1♣-1♦-2♥, and 1 ♦-1M-2♣ are used as (possibly) artificial and forcing. Other bids are then more limited, for example 1♣-1♠-3♦=4441♦ and 17+hcp, and 1♣-1♠-4♦=6+♣, 4♠, short ♦, and 15-16hcp. After the forcing Gazzilli-bid, a rebid by responder in the fourth suit is the strongest bid (similar to 1M-1X-2♣-2♦), and the other rebids are again more limited. There are variations of this, but this is the version Garozzo used in his Ambra-system, version 1.0 of Ambra that is.