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P (P) 1D (P) : ?

Poll: Now what? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Now what?

  1. 1N wtp? (6 votes [31.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.58%

  2. 2D (12 votes [63.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

  3. other (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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#1 User is offline   y66 

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Posted 2008-October-26, 09:02

Matchpoints.

Pard opens 1D in 3rd. Opps silent.

Kx Jx Q9xx K94332

Now what?

Inverted minor raises off by passed hand.
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#2 User is offline   TimG 

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Posted 2008-October-26, 09:26

Assuming I am 2245, I respond 1N.
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Posted 2008-October-26, 10:37

Me too. Edit: Oh wait, no inverted minors, then this is an obvious 2D.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-October-26, 11:57

2D, and fwiw I hate inverted minors by passed hand.
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Posted 2008-October-26, 14:29

2 support with support
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Posted 2008-October-31, 10:44

Since I open most 11 counts, 3D hasn't got much use for me as 10-12 points so I would elect 3D as I am a maximum for my previous bidding and I also play Acol with 4 card majors so partner must hold 5 diamonds or 15+ points (since he would open 1C with 4-4 in the minors and 4 of a major with 4 of a major and 4 diamonds) and would open 1N with 12-14
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Posted 2008-October-31, 10:45

I dislike 1NT a lot.
Either 2D or 3D, depending on how you value the hand (I don't really mind either).
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Posted 2008-October-31, 11:03

This hand is a square peg. A limit raise is an overbid and a preemptive raise is an underbid. I like 2, not because it is the best description, but it gives us the chance to play 2 opposite drek.

Agree with Clee - I'm not crazy about IM's BPH either.

I also like a 3rd raise in the minor. This hand falls into the 'mixed raise' category and Gnome and I would bid 2. I know these aren't played commonly, or by the poster, but I don't like a really wide range for the double raise.
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Posted 2008-October-31, 12:47

Given the agreements 2 sounds perfect. Playing inverted minors I would probably bid 3.
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Posted 2008-October-31, 14:51

I play an extended version of the minors since I play weak NT.

We use 2m+1 as a mixed raise with shortness, 2m+2 as a mixed raise with no shortness.

I actually get hands that want to raise 1m to 2 of a minor.
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