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#1 User is offline   mikeh 

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Posted 2008-October-19, 20:48

You are in 1N, after rho opened 1 (showing 4+ cards in the suit) and you overcalled 1N on A62 A872 QJ72 AJ

The opening lead is the spade 10 and dummy hits with J63 J64 A86 10732

You duck the spade and the continuation goes to the K on your right, as you duck again to prevent LHO running the suit if she gains the lead. RHO tanks and leads a low club, and you are pleasantly surprised when your J holds.

You now have 4 tricks outside diamonds and you can make if you score 3 tricks in the suit... which should be easy if you could only get to dummy twice to lead towards your QJ72, but of course you can't.

So, with only one dummy entry, how do you play this suit for 3 winners, assuming RHO has K 4th?
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Posted 2008-October-19, 21:52

DQ to RHO's king, win return, DA, playing LHO for Tx or 9x.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 02:30

Have you tried using the hand template? It makes play problems much easier to understand (and it tells you that were two sixes of spades in the pack)...

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Posted 2008-October-20, 06:16

I agree with y66. I can't see a way to beat KT9x on my right, but if LHO holds at least one of the T9, I can wind up on the board leading the 6 towards my J7, with RHO holding something like Tx.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-October-20, 06:22

y66, on Oct 19 2008, 10:52 PM, said:

DQ to RHO's king, win return, DA, playing LHO for Tx or 9x.

Dont forget to unblock the 8!
So you can later lead the 6
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Posted 2008-October-20, 06:46

I can think of an alternative line, although I don't know that it is better.

RHO cannot have all of the SK, the HKQ, the DK the club CKQ, and a balanced hand as that makes a strong NT opening (assuming RHO is playing strong NT). We are pretty confident about the SK and the CKQ, and I would expect LHO to lead a diamond if he had the DK, so that makes the heart honours split or gives RHO KQ doubleton. RHO needs at least one heart honour to have an opening bid.

If RHO is 2=1=5=5 without a singleton heart honour, it's surprising that LHO didn't lead a heart from KQ10xx rather than a spade from Q109xx.

So RHO is either 2=3=4=4, or 2=2=5=4. With 2=4=4=3, the club switch from KQx looks astonishingly unlikely.

If I believe all these deductions, I can come to 7 tricks without needing 10x or 9x of diamonds on my left, as long as I can read the heart position.

How? Is this a better line?
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Posted 2008-October-20, 10:53

FrancesHinden, on Oct 20 2008, 07:46 AM, said:

How?  Is this a better line?

4-2 with at least one heart honour with RHO is nice - can either endplay RHO in the minors or promote my J for an entry.

If are 3-3, though, I don't see a way forward. Promoting a 13th heart still leaves me a trick short/with 1 loser too many.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-October-20, 20:24

I can't figure out how to read the heart position.
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Posted 2008-October-21, 02:33

y66, on Oct 21 2008, 03:24 AM, said:

I can't figure out how to read the heart position.

Neither can I.

But my approach on these hands is always to get as far as I can in working out the layout.

p.s. Mike tells us to assume East has four diamonds, part of what my rambling reply was trying to do was ask why East can't have 5 diamonds.
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