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Posted 2004-April-12, 03:00

You are South at Imps:
Scoring: IMP

West leads Ace S against your 4H and switches to a club


10 tricks are easy if both red suits break well. Can you stand bad breaks in both suits? If not, how do you time your play so as to guard against bad breaks in the red suits?

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Posted 2004-April-12, 06:04

A pitching a , I will ruff at least 1 on dummy, and cannot aford a quick ruff with poor comunication.

Play a , if west wins and gives a rud he will be ruffing your 9 and you are home unless east has 2 singletons or a promotes a trick.

If East wins and gives a ruff you are hurted, you know you can finese 9, but your lack of entries to dummy means you need trumps to be 2-3.

If you win K (best defence) you will ruff a and repeat a , problem is now you can be giving a ruff to the short trump holder: 5-1-2-5 on any hand. But hink I can live with that.

I think these succeds to 4 on east and 3/4 or Ax on west, 4 on West and 3 or Ax on East, any 3-2 and some inaccurate defences, but it loses automatically to most 6-1 breaks.

So here is a basic line, hope someone can improve :)
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Posted 2004-April-12, 19:39

Fluffy, on Apr 12 2004, 07:04 AM, said:

Play a , if west wins and gives a rud he will be ruffing your 9 and you are home unless east has 2 singletons or a promotes a trick.

If west wins and give a ruff to east then you need hearts 3-2 or else you lost 1 spade 2 diamonds and 1 heart.
So basically your play succede when atleast one of the suits are 3-2 (with the add of A diamond single in east) and you dont get to be ruffed in clubs.
If they dont take the first diamond, then you lose even when diamond breaks but hearts dont if you get ruffed by the single heart.
You can make things better if you play the K of heart before diamond, then you wont be ruffed by the singelton heart holder.
There is a simpler line with about the same chances , you win the A of club , play AQ and K of clubs, drop another spade on the K of club, and you are home if either suit is 3-2.
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Posted 2004-April-12, 21:31

A pitching a , K, A, ruff a ,then play a to K, i hope this line will work against either suit bad break, but, is there a line that can guard against both suits bad break?
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Posted 2004-April-13, 15:24

Flame, on Apr 13 2004, 01:39 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Apr 12 2004, 07:04 AM, said:

Play a , if west wins and gives a rud he will be ruffing your 9 and you are home unless east has 2 singletons or a promotes a trick.

If west wins and give a ruff to east then you need hearts 3-2 or else you lost 1 spade 2 diamonds and 1 heart.

I won´t lose another unless the player ruffing is short in trumps as well, surelly very unlikelly since bidding wasn´t posted (requires a 6-5 or 7-4).
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Posted 2004-April-13, 18:00

Fluffy, on Apr 13 2004, 04:24 PM, said:

Flame, on Apr 13 2004, 01:39 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Apr 12 2004, 07:04 AM, said:

Play a , if west wins and gives a rud he will be ruffing your 9 and you are home unless east has 2 singletons or a promotes a trick.

If west wins and give a ruff to east then you need hearts 3-2 or else you lost 1 spade 2 diamonds and 1 heart.

I won´t lose another unless the player ruffing is short in trumps as well, surelly very unlikelly since bidding wasn´t posted (requires a 6-5 or 7-4).

If west has A10xx in diamond and a short heart he doesnt have to give a ruff to his p, he can just lead something else.
I'm not saying you're line isnt good, but i htink its more or less makes when atleast 1 suit behave.
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Posted 2004-April-15, 03:54

When he swithces win in dummy and continue playing from dummy, and same dilema faces poor east, ruffing low or letting me cash my tricks and cross ruff.
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