GAH thread title wrong. Pairs, not imps!
red vs white at imps
#1
Posted 2008-October-13, 14:59
GAH thread title wrong. Pairs, not imps!
George Carlin
#2
Posted 2008-October-13, 16:25
Anyway, though all bids seem a bit equivalente, tactically the correct bid is 2♦. Bidding 1♥ leaves opps all the room in the world to find their spade fit. By taking out the whole 1 level, opener will have problems. Who knows?... maybe they end up on a 4-3 spade fit, or even in hearts!
#3
Posted 2008-October-14, 01:52
For that matter 1H (not forcing for me)
followed by a delayed support would
show a stronger hand.
If healthy bidder means sound, you may
try experimenting with a 2H fit jump, but
partner should be aware that you are the
joker in the partnership.
I am also not claiming that 2H is healthy /
sane.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2008-October-14, 01:58
#5
Posted 2008-October-14, 02:41
#6
Posted 2008-October-14, 07:06
#8
Posted 2008-October-14, 10:03
We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
#9
Posted 2008-October-14, 10:40
George Carlin
#10
Posted 2008-October-14, 11:02
gwnn, on Oct 14 2008, 08:40 AM, said:
Then why didn't you say so? Say hi to Han for me.
I raise to 2♦. This is a one bid hand.
#11
Posted 2008-October-14, 11:16
#12
Posted 2008-October-14, 11:21
Echognome, on Oct 14 2008, 09:16 AM, said:
I considered this, but to me:
1. 1♥ followed by 2♦ (over 1N) shows a better hand. 2♦ over 1♠ or 2♣ sounds like a forced preference.
2. Frequently when hearts is our game (barely possible), pard will bid them himself. When pard has a big balanced hand (but chose to bid 1♦), we can economically bid them over some number of NT or a cue.
3. Assuming 1♥ is "NF Constructive" (which is it is for many), we are about a King light.
#13
Posted 2008-October-14, 11:31
phil said:
I don't see how 1♥ then 2♦ shows a better hand. But regardless, we do have the option to pass 1NT. I don't really mind if 2♦ sounds like forced preference, my hand does suck.
clayton said:
It might not be convenient for partner to bid them. Suppose it went:
(1♣) - 1♦ - (Dbl) - 2♦
(3♣) - ?
Now partner has to be willing to commit to 4♦ to show hearts. I am not claiming that bidding hearts doesn't have its downsides. Such as when partner does not have support and we're not willing to bid again to show our support.
pclayton said:
I wouldn't play that personally. I'd play it as F1 at the 1-level. A change of suit at the 2-level under partner's bid I would play as "NF Constructive". I'm ok with the F1 given I have the diamond support. Again, it may not work out, but it's the shot I'd like to take.
#14
Posted 2008-October-14, 16:44
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
#15
Posted 2008-October-14, 17:40
pclayton, on Oct 14 2008, 12:02 PM, said:
gwnn, on Oct 14 2008, 08:40 AM, said:
Then why didn't you say so? Say hi to Han for me.
I raise to 2♦. This is a one bid hand.
Thanks for calling my overcalling style healthy Phil.
My coach doesn't agree though, so I think I will have to pull in a notch.
- hrothgar
#16
Posted 2008-October-14, 17:59
1. We are highly unlikely to belong in hearts, with rho showing at least 4 of them
2. If we do belong in hearts, it is highly unlikely that we belong there at the level to which partner will probably bid/compete
3. if we belong in hearts at a high level, the opps belong in spades at least as high... think about LHO's shape if partner and RHO have long hearts
4. if we bid 1♥, LHO gets to bid 1♠ on all minimum hands with 4♠, and to jump to 2♠ to show some extras... by bidding 2♦, we deprive him of some of the strength-showing subtleties available over 1♥
5. If we bid 1♥, and LHO bids a black suit, and is raised by RHO, bidding 3♦ now is a huge overbid
6. We cannot afford two calls with this hand unless partner shows a monster.. so support with support.. it is partner who can tell if we belong in a high(er) level of diamonds than 2.. not we
In fact, this hand is so weak that I am far, far closer to passing than I am to raising at all. This is a good hand for transfer advances, so that I can bid 2♦ as a weak raise, with no constructive connotations at all.
#17
Posted 2008-October-14, 18:43
I'm still a 1♥ bidder (as I think it might be the only way we can compete in hearts), but I'm listening.
#18
Posted 2008-October-14, 19:09
xxx QTxxx Kxx xx
then I'd raise 2♦.
Making life easier for partner on lead is worth alot of matchpoints in my opinion.
--Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.