[benlessard]

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an,

You are seriously going overboard with these 1 level overcalls. I think you are taking a good idea (overcall at the 1 level with weakish distributional hands) way too far. Here you are vul against not and there just isn't much merit to bidding. If you have a game you will almost always get in anyways, you don't want the lead, it's very unlikely you want to save, it's risky that partner will bid too much in a competitive auction and go for a number vulnerable, etc etc. There is just very little merit to bidding at these colors with this hand.

Agree 100% overcalling is pointless. Change the vul and i still think 1H is pointless but now 2H is a possibility.

[jdonn]

rogerclee, on Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

Han,

You are seriously going overboard with these 1 level overcalls. I think you are taking a good idea (overcall at the 1 level with weakish distributional hands) way too far. Here you are vul against not and there just isn't much merit to bidding. If you have a game you will almost always get in anyways, you don't want the lead, it's very unlikely you want to save, it's risky that partner will bid too much in a competitive auction and go for a number vulnerable, etc etc. There is just very little merit to bidding at these colors with this hand. I would ask you what you are trying to achieve. As far as 2H, if you aren't english or dutch or under 20 years old I think it wouldn't occur to you. Oh wait...

You are just bitter about when I overcalled 1♠ vul on QJxxxx and out, you bid 1NT and I bid 2♠, I got doubled in 2 and went down a trick on a trump endplay for -200 and win 5 vs our teammates finding 3NT. I knew you were so mad it worked

I would bid 1♥ always on this, except perhaps in certain favorable vuls/seats I would bid 2 instead.

[han]

Are you sure that this was against me? I don't remember ever getting a bad score in a team match against you.

[jdonn]

han, on Oct 16 2008, 05:22 PM, said:

Are you sure that this was against me? I don't remember ever getting a bad score in a team match against you.

It was IRL the time I played with clee.

[han]

Ah, I thought you were quoting my post but it was Roger's.

[kenrexford]

1♥ is sick at IMP's, IMO. Partner will be hard-pressed to stretch for games on the next deal, he won't trust leading my suit against the next spade contract, or he will bid like a lunatic to make up the -1100.

2♥ is beyond silliness. Not to mention, this should be intermediate, IMO.

1NT Raptor is excellent. Play that more often here. Especially when I come to the table.

Pass?

[drinbrasil]

I dont bid 1H. For one level i have ate least one of two:good suit or good hcp.
1H also can help opponents to describe better how many spades they have (doubling with 4 and bidding with 5).

[Free]

han, on Oct 13 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

If you read my post as suggesting that it was the 1H call that lead to a great result, and therefore 1H is a good bid then, you misunderstood my intentions. Often people like to know what happened at the table.

I didn't misunderstood you, I was just questioning the merits your overcall

[OleBerg]

kenrexford, on Oct 17 2008, 05:25 AM, said:

1♥ is sick at IMP's, IMO.  Partner will be hard-pressed to stretch for games on the next deal, he won't trust leading my suit against the next spade contract, or he will bid like a lunatic to make up the -1100.

2♥ is beyond silliness.  Not to mention, this should be intermediate, IMO.

1NT Raptor is excellent.  Play that more often here.  Especially when I come to the table.

Pass?

I'm surprised you like a 1NT-Bid.

If ther cards justify declaring 2♥, I'd much rather bid it right away.

[Apollo81]

I would not overcall 1♥ because I don't want the lead AND it makes it easier for LHO to show how many spades he has.

Switch my majors and I would consider it...