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#1 User is offline   MickyB 

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Posted 2008-October-06, 15:02

Butler IMPs.

P-P-1C-2H
2NT-P-??

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Posted 2008-October-06, 15:09

I would bid 3N, yes.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 15:09

Yes.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 16:50

Absolutely - IMO it isn't even close - I wouldn't open this a strong NT due to the shape and lack of anything in the doubletons - but the strength is there for it - four aces and tens is worth an upgrade any day of the week

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Posted 2008-October-06, 18:04

I bid 3NT without much thought, it was suggested to me that 3 would have been a better bid.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 18:24

I would have tried 3h over 2nt.

p=p=1c=(2h)
2nt=p=?
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Posted 2008-October-06, 18:27

Easy 3NT. Partner would expect either a stronger or more distributional hand for 3.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 18:54

Don't mind 3NT, but would apologise if opponents ran diamonds and it turned out that we could make game in a black suit (what should partner bid over 2 with QJx AQxx Jxx Qxx, after all?)

If partner said "No problem - I'd have expected you to be stronger or more distributional for 3", fine. If he said "Maybe 3 should be this kind of hand or better", also fine. If he said "I should think you are sorry. Why didn't you bid 3?" - well, he'd have to be a pretty fine player for it to be fine for me to continue playing with him.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 23:53

I think if 4S is a better place to play, maybe he should have made a negative double instead of 2N. Did you ask him why he didnt make one?
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Posted 2008-October-07, 01:38

hmmw wow i guess 3h is not good?

As a side note...very side note...I understand opening 1nt....even with this extreme.
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Posted 2008-October-07, 03:09

dburn, on Oct 7 2008, 01:54 AM, said:

Don't mind 3NT, but would apologise if opponents ran diamonds and it turned out that we could make game in a black suit (what should partner bid over 2 with QJx AQxx Jxx Qxx, after all?)

Or even ♠QJx ♥AQxx ♦xx ♣Qxxx.

I'd bid 3, and I don't think partner should expect any more shape or strength than this. If I'd already promised clubs, I'd be more inclined to bid 3NT.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-October-07, 05:13

mike, what does 3 mean?
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Posted 2008-October-07, 06:08

I think its close call between 3S and 3Nt. Partner can surely have 4S (5 ?) and bid 2Nt.

Making a neg X with 1.5/2 stoppers in H and short clubs will often backfire. So with most hands where ive got 2 H stoppers and values ill stretch to bid 2Nt instead of making a neg X.


Qxxxx
KJx
Axxx
x

Even with 5S it will not surprised me that 2Nt might be better than a neg X.
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Posted 2008-October-07, 06:46

As I play partner's max-pass cannot have long spades. 3NT with no other considerations.
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Posted 2008-October-07, 07:44

As I always open 5-5 in the black suits with 1, I have an easy 3.

In partnerships where 5-5 can be opened 1, 3 is out of the question.

Strenghtwise, 3 shows nothing more than a raise to 3nt, it simply describes a ditributional hand, that believes that other games than 3nt is possible.
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Posted 2008-October-07, 17:53

MickyB, on Oct 6 2008, 04:02 PM, said:

Butler IMPs.
P-P-1C-2H
2NT-P-??
IMO 3 = 10, 3N = 7.
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