[FrancesHinden]

gwnn, on Oct 5 2008, 10:08 AM, said:

Seriously Andy, 0-9 is not really mainstream (well not what I would consider mainstream). No outside aces sounds like a good idea but not as an absolute restriction, just as a guideline. I don't think a majority of players would pass on

Ax xxx x QJTxxxx

or

KQx x xx JTxxxxx

but automatically open on

xx xx xx JTxxxxx

which seems to be your description. With that said, your description seems to be much closer than Arc's.

His 0-9 HCP doesn't exactly fit with "2 of the top 5" honours in clubs

[FrancesHinden]

ironyuppie, on Oct 3 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

This hand generated some discussion at another forum, and I wanted to see what you fine gentlemen had to say:

Ah, someone else not interested in my opinion.

[P_Marlowe]

3H.

Assumes of course, that partner thinks this is forcing.
Otherwise bid 3NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[JoAnneM]

FrancesHinden, on Oct 5 2008, 08:29 PM, said:

ironyuppie, on Oct 3 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

This hand generated some discussion at another forum, and I wanted to see what you fine gentlemen had to say:

Ah, someone else not interested in my opinion.

I noticed it was this person's first post and thought maybe they just didn't know women are allowed here.

[gnasher]

gwnn, on Oct 5 2008, 10:08 AM, said:

Seriously Andy, 0-9 is not really mainstream (well not what I would consider mainstream). No outside aces sounds like a good idea but not as an absolute restriction, just as a guideline. I don't think a majority of players would pass on

Ax xxx x QJTxxxx

or

KQx x xx JTxxxxx

but automatically open on

xx xx xx JTxxxxx

which seems to be your description. With that said, your description seems to be much closer than Arc's.

Yes, I should probably have excluded J10xxxxx. I wasn't really trying to write a set of rules for evaluating a possible preempt, just an approximation for use in a simulation.

I hope, though, that if you limited your sample to good players - which is what I always assume my partner is - you wouldn't get many people preempting with Ax xxx in the majors, or with KQx in a major. Yuck.