Pick a game
#21
Posted 2008-September-07, 19:38
#22
Posted 2008-September-07, 23:55
+ I prefer to let partner play 4H because i dont have any honnor to protect.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#23
Posted 2008-September-08, 01:21
Are I am certain, we have a mayor suit fit? No.
If partner has 6 hearts, he will bid 4H by himself.
For that matter, I did treat this hand as an NT
opener, I will see it through.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#24
Posted 2008-September-08, 02:07
If we have 2 club stoppers we need 6M tricks. But if we can make 6M tricks its very likely 4M is as good a spot than 3Nt. However the case where we only got 1 club stopper 4M is much better. Still i think a sim is needed before ill settle for 4D (COG)
Edited
Also what would transfer followed by 2S meant ? We are passed hand so we can make some COG move that will not be interpreted as slam tries.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#25
Posted 2008-September-08, 11:38
Before internet age you had a suspicion there are lots of "not-so-smart" people on the planet. Now you even know their names.
#26
Posted 2008-September-08, 22:52
I set partners hand to 4 spades and 5 hearts exactly, 9-11hcp when 5422, 8-11 when 5431 and 7-11 when 5440 (partner is fairly pushy!) - but in no case has hcp + controls + "freakness" (by the pavlicek [whose dealer program I use] definition) >= 18 (so nothing like a lightish opener - in practice this puts a ceiling slightly lower than 11hcp for the 5440 possibility).
I got
3♠ (or better) makes 151 cases out of 200
4♠ makes 67 times
4♥ makes 70 times
3N makes 82 times
4♦ (or better) makes 99 times
5♦ makes 44 times.
So, hmmmm. If this were MP pairs and if partner is known to be pushy, then pass has some merit I guess. If partner is not as pushy as I simulated, then pass is probably too much of a breach of partnership discipline.
If 4♦ would be taken as a natural call, then that too wouldn't be awful as it leaves the option of partner taking us back in to 4♥ with either 6 of them or looking at a diamond stiff.
Of the game calls, 4♠ looks to be the worst option, just. But I think it has to be a bad call as it closes the door on 4♥ should partner turn out to have a sixth heart.
Out of 4♥ and 3N, 3N seems to make more often and doesn't close the door on 4♥ should partner have six of them, so looks to be the best call, despite the suit orientation of our hand (lots of aces).
Nick
#27
Posted 2008-September-09, 07:04
Also, at the table declarer will make game more often than the double dummy results suggest. In fact, the defense could have beaten Josh but didn't.
- hrothgar
#28
Posted 2008-September-09, 18:16
han, on Sep 9 2008, 08:04 AM, said:
Also, at the table declarer will make game more often than the double dummy results suggest. In fact, the defense could have beaten Josh but didn't.
I ended up choosing 4♥. Partner had like the best hand ever for 3NT (9xxx KQxxx Qxx K) and I should have gone down, but they misdefended. However this points to a huge advantage of 4♥ over 4♠. If you bid 4♠ they know you have 7 trumps and will probably lead one most of the time and beat you easily. If you bid 4♥ they are misled about your hand and are very likely to misdefend. I think 4♥ would certainly have the greatest advantage of any contract over double-dummy in a sim.
#29 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-September-09, 18:24
jdonn, on Sep 9 2008, 07:16 PM, said:
han, on Sep 9 2008, 08:04 AM, said:
Also, at the table declarer will make game more often than the double dummy results suggest. In fact, the defense could have beaten Josh but didn't.
I ended up choosing 4♥. Partner had like the best hand ever for 3NT (9xxx KQxxx Qxx K) and I should have gone down, but they misdefended. However this points to a huge advantage of 4♥ over 4♠. If you bid 4♠ they know you have 7 trumps and will probably lead one most of the time and beat you easily. If you bid 4♥ they are misled about your hand and are very likely to misdefend. I think 4♥ would certainly have the greatest advantage of any contract over double-dummy in a sim.
As long as you dont tank 4H.
#30
Posted 2008-September-09, 18:35
#31
Posted 2008-September-09, 20:19
- hrothgar
#32
Posted 2008-September-09, 20:51
jdonn, on Sep 9 2008, 07:16 PM, said:
han, on Sep 9 2008, 08:04 AM, said:
Also, at the table declarer will make game more often than the double dummy results suggest. In fact, the defense could have beaten Josh but didn't.
I ended up choosing 4♥. Partner had like the best hand ever for 3NT (9xxx KQxxx Qxx K) and I should have gone down, but they misdefended. However this points to a huge advantage of 4♥ over 4♠. If you bid 4♠ they know you have 7 trumps and will probably lead one most of the time and beat you easily. If you bid 4♥ they are misled about your hand and are very likely to misdefend. I think 4♥ would certainly have the greatest advantage of any contract over double-dummy in a sim.
Partner has a hand type I thought he did......
excellent post and learning problem
perhaps even more important than bidding is the play where a true expert can bring home a difficult contract that we nonexperts do not.
#33
Posted 2008-September-09, 23:01
han, on Sep 9 2008, 09:19 PM, said:
Huh? If you were watching, you saw my hand right away. If you saw it in the post, you saw my hand right away. If it was given to you as a bidding problem, it's an easy guess since someone is bothering to give it to you.
#34
Posted 2008-September-10, 10:40
jdonn, on Sep 9 2008, 07:16 PM, said:
han, on Sep 9 2008, 08:04 AM, said:
Also, at the table declarer will make game more often than the double dummy results suggest. In fact, the defense could have beaten Josh but didn't.
I ended up choosing 4♥. Partner had like the best hand ever for 3NT (9xxx KQxxx Qxx K) and I should have gone down, but they misdefended. However this points to a huge advantage of 4♥ over 4♠. If you bid 4♠ they know you have 7 trumps and will probably lead one most of the time and beat you easily. If you bid 4♥ they are misled about your hand and are very likely to misdefend. I think 4♥ would certainly have the greatest advantage of any contract over double-dummy in a sim.
With half your HCP in the minors isn't there a case to be made for bidding 3nt with 9xxx KQxxx Qxx K rather than go thru Smolen ?
#35
Posted 2008-September-10, 17:19
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#36
Posted 2008-September-10, 17:39
I suspect that 4 of a major is going to play better than 3N
Partner rates to be 4=5=1=3, which doesn't make me excited about 3N (My best feature is my diamond suit and I don't expect to establish it. The trick is figuring out which major I want to play in. Depending on partner's hand either 4♥ or 4♠ could be the right contract.
Curious whether anyone uses either 4♣ or 4♦ over Smolen to ask a question about the major suit holding (suit quality or some such)
#37
Posted 2008-September-10, 20:58
jdonn, on Sep 10 2008, 12:01 AM, said:
han, on Sep 9 2008, 09:19 PM, said:
Huh? If you were watching, you saw my hand right away. If you saw it in the post, you saw my hand right away. If it was given to you as a bidding problem, it's an easy guess since someone is bothering to give it to you.
I thought you had two hearts when I saw the title of the post as "Pick a game." Doubleton hearts always make for a difficult choice.
-P.J. Painter.
#38
Posted 2008-September-10, 20:59
benlessard, on Sep 10 2008, 06:19 PM, said:
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But there might be a minor reason to think that. LOL
-P.J. Painter.
#39
Posted 2008-September-10, 21:04
And sealed the Law by vote,
It little matters what they thought -
We hang for what they wrote.
#40
Posted 2008-September-10, 22:12
jdonn, on Sep 10 2008, 12:01 AM, said:
han, on Sep 9 2008, 09:19 PM, said:
Huh? If you were watching, you saw my hand right away. If you saw it in the post, you saw my hand right away. If it was given to you as a bidding problem, it's an easy guess since someone is bothering to give it to you.
I was your partner silly. I didn't see your hand until after your final tank.
- hrothgar

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