[mike777]

4H
Game try.

I understand it is common to play 4c here as rkc but do not see how that will help.
If the opp bid something perhaps I can come back with 5h if possible.

[effervesce]

What's partner's preempting style? Pointless without knowing that. 4♣ as a slam try is reasonable, hoping for no diamond cue, after which RKCB looks ok.

[matmat]

Jlall, on Aug 28 2008, 12:14 AM, said:

Why would you assume 4C is a cuebid?

Can't believe people are thinking about slam lol, I was thinking more about the opps having a slam?

Anyways, 4H bidders it will go X p 5D 5H p p 5S to you. What do you do?

cuebid for NT?

i've seen the hand. it may become an interesting lead problem on certain contracts.

[rogerclee]

I would 5♥.

[effervesce]

Jlall, on Aug 28 2008, 12:14 AM, said:

Why would you assume 4C is a cuebid?

Can't believe people are thinking about slam lol, I was thinking more about the opps having a slam?

Anyways, 4H bidders it will go X p 5D 5H p p 5S to you. What do you do?

In my partnership style I don't think partner would have bid 3♥ on Axxxxxx and nothing else. Partner may have a black ace, in which case 6♥ has play. But you're certainly not going to be allowed to play in 4♥, and you were never going to stop bidding at anything short of 5♥, so why not at least try for slam in the first place? And give a lead-director against 5♦ or 5♠? If partner does have diamond values, you don't want to bid 6 over 5.

In fact, a 4♦ bid, anticipating a spade bid by LHO is reasonable too.

[mike777]

pass 5s....my lead I think if I read auction correct......K of clubs.

Pard does not have 2 aces at this vul...in fact 4h may very well be down.
Can understand 4c rkc as some sort of psyche. I gave it alot of thought. Agree much more likely 4h is down before 6h makes.

[P_Marlowe]

Jlall, on Aug 28 2008, 12:14 AM, said:

Why would you assume 4C is a cuebid?

Can't believe people are thinking about slam lol, I was thinking more about the opps having a slam?

Anyways, 4H bidders it will go X p 5D 5H p p 5S to you. What do you do?

Hi,

Hoping I got it right

3H - (Pass) - 4H - (X)
Pass - (5D) - 5H - (Pass)
Pass - (5S) - ???

The guy did bid 5D instead of 4S?

Ask the opponent, what this inversions
means, most likely I will get "not discussed".

I would go with X: 5H and 5S are making.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

Jlall, on Aug 28 2008, 01:47 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Aug 28 2008, 12:31 AM, said:

I would 5♥.

And it it goes X p 6D ?

X

6H does not make, given my defence, we should have a
fair chance of beating 6H, but if the opponents know, what
they are doing, ... 6H is the less riskier alternative.

What do we know about the opponents?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[brianshark]

I would bid 4♥. I would pass 5♠. Assuming I'm now on lead, I'll lead the ♣K.

[helene_t]

5♥. I will pass 6♦.

[Edmunte1]

I'll try 4NT, followed by 5♥

[gnasher]

I'd bid 6♥ over the opening bid. Maybe that will go (dbl) pass (7♦).

I'm surprised at people's willingness to defend 5♠: I'd expect it be cold, with partner not having much outside hearts, and at least one black ace likely to be on my left, not to mention the lead problem. In fact, I'd be worried about beating 6♠ by RHO. (If LHO bids 6♠ himself, I'll Lightner double and pray that partner has more diamonds than clubs.)

Hmm. I'd better bring this analysis to an end before I talk myself into bidding 7♥.

[mike777]

gnasher, on Aug 28 2008, 06:03 AM, said:

I'd bid 6♥ over the opening bid.  Maybe that will go (dbl) pass (7♦).

I'm surprised at people's willingness to defend 5♠: I'd expect it be cold, with partner not having much outside hearts, and at least one black ace likely to be on my left, not to mention the lead problem.  In fact, I'd be worried about beating 6♠ by RHO.  (If LHO bids 6♠ himself, I'll Lightner double and pray that partner has more diamonds than clubs.)

Hmm.  I'd better bring this analysis to an end before I talk myself into bidding 7♥.

yes 5s may be cold...yes they may make what they bid....this is shocking!????

1) We preempt//and again preempt...they bid 5 and make it...wow.....shocking...this is bad bridge by us????
2) they bid 5 over five.....we win.....or tie....I assume ...often very often......

[gnasher]

mike777, on Aug 28 2008, 12:07 PM, said:

yes 5s may be cold...yes they may make what they bid....this is shocking!????

1) We preempt//and again preempt...they bid 5 and make it...wow.....shocking...this is bad bridge by us????
2) they bid 5 over five.....we win.....or tie....I assume ...often very often......

Who said anything was shocking?

If you concede 650 against 5♠, and your teammates take 300 (or 100) from 6♥, in what sense is it a tie?!;()*^&$£"!]}{@~{#}}!?|\?><.,?

[phil_20686]

Partner will probably not have preempted with A empty to seven and an otside ace, so i would epext 6♥ to have no play, but i would still put it on the table smoothly, and double 6♠ if it comes back around. With this level of fit it just seems incredibly likely that the pposition will make game. I would put 6h on the table smoothly and hope to escape undoubled. I do not beleive that I would be allwed to play in 5h, and i think if you want to preempt you should do it before they get into the auction. Bidding 4♥ and backing in with 5h later seems very unsatisfactory.
Then again, my hand has some serious defence, and hoping to beat 5s on a diamond lead is not at all unreasonable, so I could try 4/5d as a lead directing bid, planning to defence 5s or 6d.
I would definately not bid 4h, that just seems to let the opposition in cheaply when you are sureit is not going to be left in.

[han]

Depends on the opponents. If I thought that 5H would likely win it then I would try that, else 6H. If I do bid 5H then I am bidding 6H next.

I don't think that you'll often get to play 4H and I don't think that 4H followed by 5H is likely to work this time.

[Apollo81]

I like 5♥. I think that we have enough high cards so that there is a chance of double, all pass.

Clearly I am bidding 6♥ over Xp6♦, I am not risking a huge negative number by passing when the save is probably -300 at worst.